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Old 12-15-2012, 06:45 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by Pickup man View Post
I learned to ride dirtbikes since I was a kid and have been riding mostly off road most of my life.
I actually regret selling my DRZ 400 S, as it was a bike that could do everything I ever asked of it
while riding trails and water crossings etc. But at the end of the day it really had its limits when
taking it to the tarmac. Which is why I wanted something bigger.

That being said, what about not getting another bike at all? With the riding you described, you
can just take your hard luggage off and put soft on. Balance? For more confidence, put a low seat
on and for traction put some Heidenau scouts on. I have takin my GSA through the fire roads, gravel,
hard and soft dirt, and in the end? I was very surprised just how good these big bikes are off road, and
there is tons of power when you need it. Of course if you want to do deep water crossings and lots
of rocky terrain... then sure a light dirt bike would be better.
I thought about keeping and using the R12GSA for offroad. It is heavy even unloaded, especially with all that gas up high. In the Ride Reports across the rocky trails, water and sand, it seemed that dropping the bike was a pretty common thing, and the idea of lifting the GSA, alone (how I tend to ride most of the time), multiple times a day (hour?) scares me, especially when the ground is not flat, and the bike is laying downhill :) (DAMHIK)

I may take a look at the 650 size BMW's this weekend, 200lb lighter, and definitely road capable. With the right tires and soft luggage that may work.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:13 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by lhendrik View Post

I may take a look at the 650 size BMW's this weekend, 200lb lighter, and definitely road capable. With the right tires and soft luggage that may work.
Good idea, i like those bikes too, but being road capable in this case will come with its fair share of "buzziness" when riding the slab. If you don't tire from such then it could be the best heavy bike alternative for you.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:37 AM   #33
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Good idea, a BMW 650 single would be a great bike for that. They have been proven to be very good off road bikes
capable of trekking the world. With weight down low and miserly fuel economy you would have bike that should fit what you're looking for. They are maintenance friendly as well.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:19 AM   #34
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Take a look at the new Husqvarna Terra 650. It has the BMW motor, but uprated and the bike is lighter than the BMW version. Plus it's $7k MSRP. 400lbs I think. With the right tires I think this is a good option.

Meanwhile I ride a Yam WR250R and a new KTM 690R. The Yam is in Phoenix to visit winters. Both bikes are about 300lbs. Both are capable off road machines, but are good on the highway as well. They are not hard core dirt bikes like KTM's smaller offerings. I use both of mine for travel and exploration. But I can pick them up by myself when solo, which is the main reason I bought them. MSRP on a new Yam is mid sixes. The 690 lists for low tens and I have about $13k into mine. She's mighty hawt, though.

If you want a street legal enduro bike, consider a new KTM 350 EXC-F. It comes with everything you need for street riding (including pollution control), larger oil capacity and longer service intervals. However, it is still an enduro bike suitable for competition. My son bought one to race the Mexican 1000 in Baja last April. He won his class and was 4th overall bike. Top speed according to his GPS was 96mph in the desert (and he was WFO a lot). The bike is about $9k new.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:55 AM   #35
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gsa alternative

I like the hp2 because it will go interstate and do well offroad. That being said I am considering a ktm. When I go on the real dirt rides with people it seems there is always alot of ktm's. There is probably a reason for that. The hp2 handles like a real dirt bike and is much lighter then a gsa but in the real deep sand it is a fight. So consider the actual riding your going to do. If you want real serious offroad capability ktm,husky,ect...If you want to be able to handle some serious offroad and still use the bike for other stuff I recommend an hp2. Richard
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:39 PM   #36
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An even lighter option?

The new, well reviewed fuel injected 330 lb. Honda 250cc dual sport. This bike has been highly recommended to me as a second bike, but clearly a day tripper, not an adventure bike.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:26 PM   #37
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I too ride a pig GS and recently was in the same position. At 6'3" and 235 lbs. it is a little easier for me, I assume, to handle the GS off pavement. BUT, I bought a 2011 DRZ400S (used), added an IMS tank, higher bars w/ROK risers, Seat Concepts seat, Cyra Had guards, IMS shifter and pegs, case savers, Wolfman brackets and bags, skid plate and so on and so on.
All in all I spent an additional 1-11/2K on the bike and it is PERFECT! Just what I was looking for, a capable off road motorcycle that can haul the pavement in comfort and easy to ride in the rough stuff for under 6K.
I was so pleased that I sold my KLR and now have just two motorcycles that cover everything I love to ride, from trails to super-slab.

I'm happy Hope you find your combination.
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