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Old 07-29-2013, 03:39 PM   #901
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Where is Don's write up? I have had my rockster for about a month and would like to get the suspension tuned in properly for my weight.
HERE!

http://www.eilenberger.net/Suspension/suspension.htm

Take the time, make the measurements, fiddle with it, see what the adjustments do.

Preload or sag is for weight. Once its set, just work with the rebound. Make adjustments when the load or riding conditions change.

For example more rebound damping is needed when going 80 mph than 45. Get a feel for it and become one with your bike.

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Old 07-29-2013, 03:55 PM   #902
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What David said.


Though just remember Don's instruction are for aftermarket shocks with more tuning options, and I can't confirm that the sag measurements he lists are exactly the same for the R1150R since it's for a 12R, I just don't remember. One would think, but it might be worth investigating over here on the 1150R forum or maybe in the 1150r manual.

http://r1150r.org



Also, if you can't get the right sag measurement it's possible you need different springs, depending on your weight.



With the suspension setup right, the R feels like it's on rails and very planted.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:46 AM   #903
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Right on, well the 1150R is a bit heavier, I had an 05' and it wasn't quite as nimble as the 12R, but still it shouldn't need a big push to get it to lean into a turn and handled well.
At 165 and then with the bags you're right about at the "normal" BMW rider weight, assuming they are original stock shocks with stock springs. Check your sag with the preload all the way out and check any other settings your shocks have.
By all means play with the settings until you find what feels best following Don's writeup I posted the best you can.

With only 8500 miles the shocks *should* still be OK. Does the tires have any flat spot in the center? I know when mine get worn the steering can feel heavier and unstable in corners. It's amazing how fresh rubber can bring a bike back to life when it comes to handling.

Good luck and welcome to the BMW R club!
Adding a few PSI to both tires and returning the preload to the default settings from the manual made a noticeable difference. It's definitely a stable bike. It also definitely feels heavier when riding than the mini-GS, but I'm guessing that's because it IS heavier than the mini-GS. It's going to take me a bit to get comfortable with this big a motorcycle.

Does anyone have any experience with the Wunderlich engine bars for the R1150R or the R1200R? I don't like the look of the SW Motech bars, and the Wunderlich seem to be the only other option.
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:04 AM   #904
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Awesome glad it worked with a few simple things!

Handles like a jeep is not a term that should be used when describing riding an R...

Having a new to you bike with somewhat worn tires is a perfect excuse to wear then out as quickly as possible... Fresh tires and a little time spent dialing in the suspension further should reward you with an even better feeling bike.

Start saving up for some shocks too, by the time you hit 30k the stock ones will be shot and nothing takes an R to the next level of perfection like quality custom built aftermarket shocks. ;)
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:22 AM   #905
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Awesome glad it worked with a few simple things!

Handles like a jeep is not a term that should be used when describing riding an R...

Having a new to you bike with somewhat worn tires is a perfect excuse to wear then out as quickly as possible... Fresh tires and a little time spent dialing in the suspension further should reward you with an even better feeling bike.

Start saving up for some shocks too, by the time you hit 30k the stock ones will be shot and nothing takes an R to the next level of perfection like quality custom built aftermarket shocks. ;)
Cheers!
Now I just need to work on the little stuff like the cosmetic corrosion on the handlebars and headlamp housing, and finding a place to mount the telepass when I take the windshield off...

Oh -- one more question. My understanding is that this bike has a dry clutch, so in extremis I can top off the oil with a lower viscosity auto motor oil without worrying about the friction modifiers -- just don't want to do it too often... Is that correct?


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Old 07-30-2013, 10:32 PM   #906
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showerfan, the newest R is 110 HP. 494 lbs wet. Lots of low end torque. I never rode a ducati. Last time I "Drag raced" a 600 sport bike my front wheel went off the ground twice in first gear. Both times the traction control set it back down. I had it lift the front wheel once in third when I was being really stupid. The torque curve is pretty flat. I think they got the fuel sorted out pretty good, there is always black on the tip of my big can.

For handling, it rides like a BMW boxer. This goes back to my 1976 R75/6 my first boxer. I still have it and love it. Want to do a U turn? Pick up your feet, put em on the pegs and slowly turn. Right foot on the rear brake. It just does it. It corners with the best of them.

How did you like the telalever?

An S1000RR is cheaper off the show room floor if you want crazy HP. I got 137,000 miles out of my last boxer, I hope to get the same out of this one.

Do what you want. If you are looking for a track bike, buy the S1000RR.

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David ,
Wel did you get that front wheel fender, I got to get rid of the stock one on mine?
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:31 AM   #907
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Henderson757, the fender came with the bike. Its a 2012.

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Old 07-31-2013, 04:38 AM   #908
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...finding a place to mount the telepass when I take the windshield off...
The most effective location I've found for the transponder is inside of the lids of my non-metallic top cases. I move it between three cases: an F800GS Vario hard case (attached horizontally to the underside of the lid with Velcro), a 28 liter BMW Top Box (attached at an angle to the underside of the front of the lid with Velcro), and a 31 liter BMW small Sport Softbag2 (in the lid's zippered top compartment where I just push the transponder into position with a couple of the microfiber cleaning cloths I always carry and zip it shut). The hidden top case locations have been 100% effective with the added benefit of theft resistance.

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Old 08-01-2013, 10:56 PM   #909
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Henderson757, the fender came with the bike. Its a 2012.

David

After some page surfing I noticed it on other bikes. lol Oh well

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Old 08-02-2013, 02:29 AM   #910
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The most effective location I've found for the transponder is inside of the lids of my non-metallic top cases. I move it between three cases: an F800GS Vario hard case (attached horizontally to the underside of the lid with Velcro), a 28 liter BMW Top Box (attached at an angle to the underside of the front of the lid with Velcro), and a 31 liter BMW small Sport Softbag2 (in the lid's zippered top compartment where I just push the transponder into position with a couple of the microfiber cleaning cloths I always carry and zip it shut). The hidden top case locations have been 100% effective with the added benefit of theft resistance.

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Thanks -- I'll give that a shot. Right now I have it stuck on the windshield with dual-lock, but I want to pull the windshield off soon...
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:39 PM   #911
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Just whack the throttle at three grand. Tell me what happens.
I just go forward quicker. But maybe I've been too high in the rev range when I've tried it? Part of it has been fear of the cost and weight of the bike- then I see Lost Rider posting those awesome photos... LOL! That's stuff I'd have done on my Multi 620! And I'm not that old... I think this weekend is going to involve some abandoned tarmac and requisite "nutting up" on my part.
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Thats a beautiful looking motorcycle. Nice moto-porn picture also.
I especially like the small fairing on it.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:31 PM   #913
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I just go forward quicker. But maybe I've been too high in the rev range when I've tried it? Part of it has been fear of the cost and weight of the bike- then I see Lost Rider posting those awesome photos... LOL! That's stuff I'd have done on my Multi 620! And I'm not that old... I think this weekend is going to involve some abandoned tarmac and requisite "nutting up" on my part.


Be careful in first gear you can loop the bike (BTDT), but second at about 3500 with a bounce crack of the throttle and up she goes with more forgiveness than first. In between looping it and slamming the front wheel down there's a fun sweet spot on the 12R for some hooligan shenanigans.

How out of BMW character, but being able to loft the front end over road hazards at will makes for a safer ride... that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:05 PM   #914
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I had a BMW R1100RT. It was too big to ride to work or just run to the grocery store. Too much work to back it out of the garage and way too easy to tip it over in gravel (with me on it or not) so I bought a Supermoto for a commuter to work etc. The wheelie thing was a total blast. I was cutting through parking lots, across sidewalks, medians, down alleys and through construction sites all the time. After a while the cops were following me around town. I sold the bike before I ended up in the back of an ambulance or cop car. Now I have the R that I can back out of the garage and run to the store with no trouble. A little of the supermoto attitude stuck with me even though the bike is gone.

Here she is in front of Joeys Chrome Diner in Merrimac NH


RT lite..... I usually have the saddle bags off. I was out of state on a trip.
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Oh -- one more question. My understanding is that this bike has a dry clutch, so in extremis I can top off the oil with a lower viscosity auto motor oil without worrying about the friction modifiers -- just don't want to do it too often... Is that correct?

I'm not 100% but I believe it's Not engine oil but DOT4 brake fluid.
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