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Old 11-29-2012, 06:05 PM   #76
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The line between prudent and self-righteous is the difference between regulating your own activity (which is entirely appropriate) and trying to regulate other people's behavior (which you have no right to do unless that behavior is actually a threat to you). Meaning, in this case, that the driver had no right to try to damage the biker; the biker was no danger to him.

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I always watch my mirrors, and gladly move right to let people pass.

On my bike, that means moving right in my lane and waving the faster rider by.

Pulling my horse trailer, that means taking the "slower traffic" lane or pullouts, when available, so that others can safely pass.

I don't care what the line on the road is, if I'm holding someone up, I make it as easy as possible for them to pass me.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:07 PM   #77
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Is passing on a double yellow widely accepted
Half the people replying to this thread have said "when I pass on a DY" like it's common and it OK.
It is here in N GA because the state has eliminated nearly all the legal passing zones in the mountains and somewhere around 99% of drivers don't have enough sense to understand the purpose of, much less have enough common courtesy to actually use, the numerous clearly marked, paved courtesy pull overs provided.

I'll typically give the cager or cruisers the benefit of the doubt until we've ridden by one or two of the obviously marked pull-offs, then I pass when I feel it is safe for me to do so, double-yellow or no double-yellow.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:55 PM   #78
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So to all you self-righteous do-gooders here. Do you feel that speeding up to block a bike from passing on a DY is actually making it SAFER for ANYBODY? Forcing the bike to accelerate harder, increasing speed, distance, time in the other lane etc... Trying to intentionally hit one, which I thought the OP made that very clear in post #1 is certainly not justified for a minor infraction of the law. Would it be alright if I ride around with my .44 mag and blow away everybody I see making traffic violations to justify public safety. Absurd? What's the difference other than choice of weapon?
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:00 PM   #79
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So to all you self-righteous do-gooders here. Do you feel that speeding up to block a bike from passing on a DY is actually making it SAFER for ANYBODY? Forcing the bike to accelerate harder, increasing speed, distance, time in the other lane etc... Trying to intentionally hit one, which I thought the OP made that very clear in post #1 is certainly not justified for a minor infraction of the law. Would it be alright if I ride around with my .44 mag and blow away everybody I see making traffic violations to justify public safety. Absurd? What's the difference other than choice of weapon?
Yeah.

Countering a minor traffic infraction with felony assault makes good sense, doesn't it?

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Old 11-29-2012, 08:32 PM   #80
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:16 PM   #81
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Shocking no one brought up, follow him till he stops and discuss it with him. Ask him for his managers phone number and so on. Bash him in the face with a full face helmet. Stuff his lunch box somewhere dark etc.etc.

Seriously no excuse for swerving into a bikes path.
+1 for pulling over and waiting, calming down and living to ride another day.
I would report it, Maybe this isn't his first time called to the carpet for it. Maybe save the next guy.
Aint no way I would quit with a single phone call. I would ask for a face to face meeting with the Personal dept. even if you dont get it people will notice you are serious.

This thread has piqued my interest in what the law says about passing in the land of California.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:21 PM   #82
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So to all you self-righteous do-gooders here. Do you feel that speeding up to block a bike from passing on a DY is actually making it SAFER for ANYBODY? Forcing the bike to accelerate harder, increasing speed, distance, time in the other lane etc... Trying to intentionally hit one, which I thought the OP made that very clear in post #1 is certainly not justified for a minor infraction of the law. Would it be alright if I ride around with my .44 mag and blow away everybody I see making traffic violations to justify public safety. Absurd? What's the difference other than choice of weapon?
Now I realize it can be difficult to comprehend, but nobody is excusing or condoning road rage, the truck drivers actions were reprehensible, and the keyboard cowboys are not worthy of consideration.
If "safety" were the priority here, self control, not self satisfaction would be the universal course of action, but really this is about individual egos

When I step over the line, it's with the understanding that I am in fact breaking the law, no amount of excuses or justifications will change that simple fact, and there is the possibility of consequences. It may be in the form of official censure, or possibly some form of vigilante justice.
Ergo I use discretion when taking liberties, not casually acting on every whim, or deluding myself as to what I'm doing, and I leave my hankie at home.

We choose to ride in a world ruled by physics and occasionally inhabited by assholes, riding the way we wish it should be, rather than how things actually are is a fools errand.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:35 AM   #83
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Do did the OP find and fuck the guys wife or mother in response or what?
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:54 AM   #84
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Do did the OP find and fuck the guys wife or mother in response or what?
Yeah, and he's selling the video rights to Brazzers for a bundle.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:08 AM   #85
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The line between prudent and self-righteous is the difference between regulating your own activity (which is entirely appropriate) and trying to regulate other people's behavior (which you have no right to do unless that behavior is actually a threat to you). Meaning, in this case, that the driver had no right to try to damage the biker; the biker was no danger to him.

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This is what I wanted to say, and is truly the heart of the matter. If I choose to safely pass on a DY, it's nobody's business but mine, unless I put someone at risk. Then yes, you take your "victim" as you find him. He may call the police, he may follow you to discuss, he may want to hurt you.

However, there is no logical argument supporting some entitled asshat deciding that he can harm a biker for a safe, yet illegal, transgression of the law. It makes no sense, and can't be supported. PhilB just said it better....

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Old 11-30-2012, 06:24 AM   #86
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The roads are full of assholes around here, and if you let it bug you, you will just be unhappy all the time.
The best thing is to just report any company truck to the company for unsafe driving.
Most companies take reports seriously.

I never get worked up on a bike, I just assume people are fools and let it slide.
It would be a full time job trying to do something about other people.

Now in a situation where someone TRIED to crash me, I would follow them and have words.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:06 AM   #87
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Now in a situation where someone TRIED to crash me, I would follow them and have words.
That's been tried. Now you're committing assault. After all, the driver is now the victim 'cause you've 'had words.'

Bad things happen all the way round if you try and follow someone and 'have words.'

Anyone see that the 'kid' that hit the guy passing him in NH was found guilty? On one hand On the other its a real shame that a moment of road rage ruins a life. Stop and think about it dumbass! Do you REALLY want to be a felon? ...for the REST of your life?!

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Old 11-30-2012, 08:24 AM   #88
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my mistake

I'm sorry that I confused Windmill with Knnonball8. By the time I'd read the posting I mixed up the names. Sorry.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:55 AM   #89
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Now I realize it can be difficult to comprehend, but nobody is excusing or condoning road rage, the truck drivers actions were reprehensible, and the keyboard cowboys are not worthy of consideration.
If "safety" were the priority here, self control, not self satisfaction would be the universal course of action, but really this is about individual ego's

When I step over the line, it's with the understanding that I am in fact breaking the law, no amount of excuses or justifications will change that simple fact, and there is the possibility of consequences. It may be in the form of official censure, or possibly some form of vigilante justice.
Ergo I use discretion when taking liberties, not casually acting on every whim, or deluding myself as to what I'm doing, and I leave my hankie at home.

We choose to ride in a world ruled by physics and occasionally inhabited by assholes, riding the way we wish it should be, rather than how things actually are is a fools errand.
Um, it's "egos", not "ego's"...............
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:59 AM   #90
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Um, it's "egos", not "ego's"...............
If you're going to do that, you need to correct everybody's poor grammar and spelling errors. That could keep you busy full time.
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