Possible recall for 2005 to 2008 R series

lzyellodog · 11-30-2012, 10:01 PM

Not sure if this has been posted before but I was just looking at the most recent recall from Ford and saw this tidbit.

LINKY

Safety Agency Investigating Fuel Leaks in BMW Motorcycles

By CHRISTOPHER JENSEN

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is investigating whether it needs to recall about 24,000 BMW motorcycles because of possible fuel leaks.
A report posted on the agency Web site identifies the models as the 2005-8 R Series. The agency says it decided to investigate after receiving 28 complaints and seeing additional reports on Internet forums of cracks in the fuel-pump housing.
There was no mention of fires or accidents.
One owner, who complained to the safety agency in September, said that when he arrived at his destination he noticed a strong smell of gasoline and “my left pant leg with soaked in fuel.”
He found a leak in the fuel-pump housing “in close proximity to the vehicle’s left exhaust pipe and ignition.”

GSMarc · 11-30-2012, 11:40 PM

is it related to this ??

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530713

Delta61 · 12-02-2012, 06:42 AM

It relates to this problem

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=711467

Take a look at the entire thread. I checked mine because of reading this thread and posted pictures of what i found

Jim

hillbillypolack · 12-02-2012, 06:58 AM

It would be good to see a better resolution on a similar fuel concern for plastic-tank Ducatis. Seems to me if your fuel pump seal is affected and leaks gasoline onto the rear header. . . it may be a concern.

Tosh Togo · 12-02-2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillbillypolack

It would be good to see a better resolution on a similar fuel concern for plastic-tank Ducatis. Seems to me if your fuel pump seal is affected and leaks gasoline onto the rear header. . . it may be a concern.

The seals that are failing in these fuel pumps are not made of the same material that Ducati fuel tanks are.

-It might be the same cause (ethanol

), but it's a very different problem.

hillbillypolack · 12-02-2012, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tosh Togo

The seals that are failing in these fuel pumps are not made of the same material that Ducati fuel tanks are.

-It might be the same cause (ethanol

), but it's a very different problem.

Yes, I know. Just saying that any leaking gasoline over an engine or header is pretty serious. In both instances, the 'issue' has been known for several years.

def · 12-02-2012, 06:15 PM

Does somebody have to be seriously injured or die in order for action to be taken?

Fuel system leaks on a motorcycle with fuel injection and a high pressure fuel system can be serious.

Thinking out loud here, I would speculate that the NHTSA will give relatively low priority to a motorcycle issue where there have been no property damage or deaths reported.

NHTSA....a bureaucracy in which I have little faith.

hillbillypolack · 12-03-2012, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by def

Does somebody have to be seriously injured or die in order for action to be taken?

Fuel system leaks on a motorcycle with fuel injection and a high pressure fuel system can be serious.

Thinking out loud here, I would speculate that the NHTSA will give relatively low priority to a motorcycle issue where there have been no property damage or deaths reported.

NHTSA....a bureaucracy in which I have little faith.

+100

If these issues were from an automotive manufacturer, it would be front page crucifixion in many public media. I am not that close to the GS years affected here, but the recalls I had on my GS were 1) proactively communicated to me from BMW, and 2) resolved with superior parts and/or techniques as in the case of lever interference on 05-07 handguards. Seeing how something similar played out with an Italian manufacturer made BMW look like heroes, as nothing was communicated through NHTSA or Ducati NA. Until I received legal notices it was a class action lawsuit.

JimVonBaden · 12-04-2012, 06:39 PM

Again?

Jim

Tosh Togo · 12-04-2012, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

Again?

Jim

No... it's STILL a problem.

Not with the bike hardware; the problem is with the swill that passes for gasoline in this country.

the EPA, the DEQ, and the ethanol subsidies.

JimVonBaden · 12-06-2012, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tosh Togo

No... it's STILL a problem.

Not with the bike hardware; the problem is with the swill that passes for gasoline in this country.

the EPA, the DEQ, and the ethanol subsidies.

No, are they doing another investigation, or is this just a rehash of the old one?

Jim

11-30-2012, 10:01 PM	#1
lzyellodog ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Eastern CT. Oddometer: 358	Possible recall for 2005 to 2008 R series Not sure if this has been posted before but I was just looking at the most recent recall from Ford and saw this tidbit. LINKY Safety Agency Investigating Fuel Leaks in BMW Motorcycles By CHRISTOPHER JENSEN The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is investigating whether it needs to recall about 24,000 BMW motorcycles because of possible fuel leaks. A report posted on the agency Web site identifies the models as the 2005-8 R Series. The agency says it decided to investigate after receiving 28 complaints and seeing additional reports on Internet forums of cracks in the fuel-pump housing. There was no mention of fires or accidents. One owner, who complained to the safety agency in September, said that when he arrived at his destination he noticed a strong smell of gasoline and “my left pant leg with soaked in fuel.” He found a leak in the fuel-pump housing “in close proximity to the vehicle’s left exhaust pipe and ignition.”

11-30-2012, 11:40 PM	#2
GSMarc Studly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2004 Oddometer: 720	is it related to this ?? http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530713 __________________ GSMarc from BELGIUM 2008 HP2/MM ABS 2008 HP2/MM 2005 HP2E 2000 R1150GS (sold)

12-02-2012, 06:42 AM	#3
Delta61 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Southeast Alabama Oddometer: 209	Recall It relates to this problem http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=711467 Take a look at the entire thread. I checked mine because of reading this thread and posted pictures of what i found Jim __________________ "Keep the Greasy Side Down" 10 1200 GSA 07 X Challenge 04 1150 GS(SOLD)

12-02-2012, 06:58 AM	#4
hillbillypolack Grumpy Old Goat Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Lidsville Oddometer: 4,345	It would be good to see a better resolution on a similar fuel concern for plastic-tank Ducatis. Seems to me if your fuel pump seal is affected and leaks gasoline onto the rear header. . . it may be a concern. __________________ I found Jesus. He was behind the sofa the whole time. 1996 M900, "Patience" 2012 GS "Sonar" 2008 Megamoto "Big Blue" 2008 S2R "WTF"

12-04-2012, 06:39 PM	#9
JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid! Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Oddometer: 41,483	Again? Jim __________________ Click here for BMW Maintenance and Repair DVDs and Corrections. "Combo-Order Discounts!"

12-02-2012, 06:15 PM	#7
def I have little to say Joined: Feb 2004 Location: The woods and mountains of Alabama Oddometer: 6,302	Does somebody have to be seriously injured or die in order for action to be taken? Fuel system leaks on a motorcycle with fuel injection and a high pressure fuel system can be serious. Thinking out loud here, I would speculate that the NHTSA will give relatively low priority to a motorcycle issue where there have been no property damage or deaths reported. NHTSA....a bureaucracy in which I have little faith.

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