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Old 11-06-2013, 11:37 AM   #196
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This route looks amazing! Some friends and I are considering doing it next year and will be in touch if it works out
We are just starting to talk about when we could all get away...and I am wondering, what are the pros/cons for going anywhere from mid-late June to early September? We probably couldn't do the full trip and would be limited to approximately 7 days on the trail to allow time to get to/from Wisco.
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Old 11-06-2013, 02:42 PM   #197
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I.T. Muck:

June typically is a wet month along much of the route. Expect mud, and perhaps even lingering snow on some shaded north-facing mountain slopes.

July and August see unsettled weather ... hot, with passing afternoon and perhaps nighttime storms.

All three months can see wildfires. At times, fires can require on-the-fly rerouting, which I try to assist with promptly so travelers don't lose precious vacation time.

The period mid-September to early October consistently provides the best conditions. The weather is more settled and cooler. It's typically drier (altho this past September was unseasonably stormy). The aspen and cottonwood trees have begun turning color. And mosquitoes are gone.

Nights can be cold by mid September, especially in the mountain valleys. Also, September and October bring out the hunting traffic. Where the route is in proximity to college towns and harvest-season events, September can mean an expensive shortage of motel rooms.

Only have a week? No problem at all. While the full route is a grand loop requiring a couple of weeks, it is divided into shorter yet rewarding sub-loops to accommodate shorter travel itineraries. In fact, I tweaked it this past season for quite a number of clients who could only travel for a week.

By design, Heart of the West's configuration makes it customizable to individual time limitations, travel styles and preferences. No worries there. And if you need an assist ... I'm here to help!

Below is Grand Teton National Park, along the route, a few Octobers ago:


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Old 11-06-2013, 05:56 PM   #198
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I.T. Muck:

June typically is a wet month along much of the route. Expect mud, and perhaps even lingering snow on some shaded north-facing mountain slopes.

July and August see unsettled weather ... hot, with passing afternoon and perhaps nighttime storms.

All three months can see wildfires. At times, fires can require on-the-fly rerouting, which I try to assist with promptly so travelers don't lose precious vacation time.

The period mid-September to early October consistently provides the best conditions. The weather is more settled and cooler. It's typically drier (altho this past September was unseasonably stormy). The aspen and cottonwood trees have begun turning color. And mosquitoes are gone.

Nights can be cold by mid September, especially in the mountain valleys. Also, September and October bring out the hunting traffic. Where the route is in proximity to college towns and harvest-season events, September can mean an expensive shortage of motel rooms.

Only have a week? No problem at all. While the full route is a grand loop requiring a couple of weeks, it is divided into shorter yet rewarding sub-loops to accommodate shorter travel itineraries. In fact, I tweaked it this past season for quite a number of clients who could only travel for a week.

By design, Heart of the West's configuration makes it customizable to individual time limitations, travel styles and preferences. No worries there. And if you need an assist ... I'm here to help!

Below is Grand Teton National Park, along the route, a few Octobers ago:

That's what I'm takin bout !



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Old 11-06-2013, 08:43 PM   #199
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Hell yeah, that is a awesome photo!

Thanks for the reply byways...very helpful information We have other logistical issues to address to get our group together for the same week, so it won't be as easy as just picking the best time for weather or other factors. The busy hunting season is a concern, but then again so is the thick clay/mud I have seen in some of the reports.

Regardless, I really hope we can make this happen in 2014!
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:47 AM   #200
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:14 AM   #201
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I was in the planning stages of a trip for just about a year.

First was Heart of west, then I switched and was going to do the TAT. Ended up coming full circle back to Tony and came up with a hybrid of the HOTW.

Dealing with Tony is kinda of what sold me. His enthusiasm is geniune, his knowledge is top shelf. Heck, when I was getting close to departure I think he was more excited than I was

Well, not quite.


I started Sept. 1st and even though I hit a ton of crappy weather, in hindsight I would of still kept with the same month. With the Aspens showing some color and the weather being a bit cooler, it is just awesome. Yeah I hit some "oh, we haven't seen weather like this in 10years," I still had an absolute blast.

Plus, crazy weather makes for fun pictures



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Old 11-07-2013, 11:24 AM   #202
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Another great photo, and thanks for your advice CaseyB! I've read some but not all of your report, as well as the portion of the LC8 report that you were included in...seems like you had an awesome time. Looking forward to reading the rest of your report
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:49 AM   #203
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H.O.W. in indeed an epic ride.

The occasional storm just makes the ride even more dramatic.




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Old 11-07-2013, 12:04 PM   #204
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Another great photo, and thanks for your advice CaseyB! I've read some but not all of your report, as well as the portion of the LC8 report that you were included in...seems like you had an awesome time. Looking forward to reading the rest of your report
Thanks for the kind words, but honestly my report is random ramblings.

If you haven't done so yet and really would help anyone reading this that is interested in the route. Read Dockingpilots RR. That's what got me sucked in and day dreaming about the possibility of my own trip. Very descriptive and a ton of insight to the history of the areas that the HOTW goes through.

And of course the LC8 report, as well as the Flatlanders report are good reads and will give you a ton more info.

More importantly than all of that. Schedule a conversation with Tony on the phone to discuss, I feel like calling him right now just writing this. Guy just has a great attitude.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:53 PM   #205
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November in the heart of the West ...

Visited another backcountry lodge today (cabins, tenting, cafe, bar, fuel ... even a golf course!) to add to Heart of the West ADV Route. Tucked deep in the heart of Yellowstone' Country's waterfall-rich "Cascade Corner," it's a gold strike that will make your ride even richer.

Below: $65 a night, sleeps two, satellite TV, waterfalls just up the road ...



Barn find! A rare KTM Allis-Chalmers Edition



A place to hang ...



Come morning, you're back on the route in minutes ... (Don't worry; tis only a wee bit o' tar.)



Sigh ...

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Old 11-17-2013, 09:02 PM   #206
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:07 AM   #207
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I too was sucked in by DockingPilot's RR 3 yrs ago and have had it on my mind ever since. I've read everyone's RRs since (thanks All for taking the time!).

Here's my question for those who have done this trip. In retrospect would you have shortened the route to reduce the daily mileage requirements? 250 miles/day for 12 days seems like it could end up feeling like a forced march. We've done Silverton/Moab for two weeks in Sept the last two years and only cover 50-140 miles daily on that trip. I realize these are wide open spaces and average speed is much higher than riding the passes. However a few of the RRs sound like days pushed beyond the point of enjoyment (Questor?). I think I want to do this next Sept and will use Tony's service for planning/customizing the details.

Thanks for any input!

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Old 11-18-2013, 04:53 PM   #208
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Got it, Error Cooled! I shall respond to your exciting plan soon.

In the meantime ... It appears our wives have something in common. Mine used to get lockered up in Land Cruisers often during my pre-moto life.







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Old 11-18-2013, 07:56 PM   #209
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Our group of 4 from Oregon did this ride last Sept.
Our daily MAX was 175 miles and we took our time.
Enjoyed and took pictures. This took about 3 weeks.
Out of 3 weeks we had 2 days that DID NOT rain.
We would do this again just for the historical aspect of the country.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:21 PM   #210
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Our group of 4 from Oregon did this ride last Sept.
Our daily MAX was 175 miles and we took our time.
Enjoyed and took pictures. This took about 3 weeks.
Out of 3 weeks we had 2 days that DID NOT rain.
We would do this again just for the historical aspect of the country.
indeed Sept last year was exceptionally wet, when Sept. is usually the safest month for dry weather.
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