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Old 12-04-2013, 09:02 PM   #241
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Klinquest, thanks for the advice. How is that gps? I've been reading a lot and am in overload with all the info. I looked at the Zumo's but feel the Montana is more suited to dual sport.

If I bring meat it will be good. We may even have some prime or wagyu ribeyes, strips. You would be more than welcome. The freezer is coming with the support vehicle regardless of trailer.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:39 PM   #242
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Klinquest, thanks for the advice. How is that gps? I've been reading a lot and am in overload with all the info. I looked at the Zumo's but feel the Montana is more suited to dual sport.

If I bring meat it will be good. We may even have some prime or wagyu ribeyes, strips. You would be more than welcome. The freezer is coming with the support vehicle regardless of trailer.
I love the Montana and I agree it's complex and agree that it's the best for dual sporting. Once you get it set up it is fantastic.

I have two 'profiles' set up - one for street (using CityNavNT street maps) and one for dirt/dual sport (Using 24K Topo maps).

As we get closer we can figure out our most likely intersection point. I'm starting/ending in W.Wendover NV.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:05 PM   #243
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Hey TxTiger, I'll get you the information. I'm excited for you!

The trailer in the photo was a big utility trailer. The Germans rented it in Salt Lake City along with the truck/trailer and the bikes (two F800s and a GS). I drove the truck/trailer.

That trailer was overkill ... could have hauled two GSs and one ATV. It's what the shop had available, but it wasn't useful. It and the massive Ford Expedition towing it were fine on the roads we went on, which on that trip didn't include the smaller two tracks or much rough terrain (it was too early in the season, and too muddy). It was all ok on the larger, maintained roads, but I wouldn't have wanted to take that oversized outfit on the smaller tracks.

I would think a small, maneuverable, high-clearance ADV-purposed trailer would be suitable. I know one large group last summer did have a support truck/trailer following; they just used some go-arounds, and arranged rendezvous points along the way. Easy to do. A couple of other groups involved a mix of bikes, pickups and SUVs.

Garmin's Montana has worked well for H.o.W. travelers. (I use its distant little cross-eyed hand-held cousin, an Oregon 450, which I find nearly useless for navigating in bright daylight, but adequate for recording tracks and waypoints, and for verifying data). Both have the track, track-point and waypoint capacity for a trip of this scale.

As for your supplies and gear list ... I just know I'm gonna be losing sleep thinking of you guys out there in the wild on dark and lonely nights ... no glowing big-screen TV to keep the lions, tigers and bears away ...

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Tony,
Thanks for the quick response. I think I will go ahead and purchase this for up to 4 riders which would include our support vehicle. If more join us I may need to increase the number. Please pm me with payment info.

I noticed a trailer behind a support vehicle in the pic. Can a reasonable sized trailer make the trip ok. If so it would allow the option to take a bike somewhere for repair if a breakdown happened. Also with a trailer I can see a portable generator, freezer full of brats, steaks, ice cream, ice for bourbon and water, etc, portable grill, maybe even a 32" HDTV with portable satellite dish. OK, scrap the tv and dish, sacrilegious for this ride.

Also, I hate to be such a noob, but I haven't bought my gps unit yet. I will by the end of the year however. I have pretty decided on the Garman Montana 650. Will everything load ok on this unit?

Thanks

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Old 12-05-2013, 05:27 AM   #244
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Morning TxTiger!
Here is a HOW report from some Texans mixed in with some Riders from Missouri and Kentucky.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826706

Our route was modified for about one week of riding.

Tony is the Man and can massage this route to fit!

Where in N Texas are you from. I'm close to Sulphur Springs.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:55 AM   #245
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As we get closer we can figure out our most likely intersection point. I'm starting/ending in W.Wendover NV.
Sounds like a plan.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:57 AM   #246
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Morning TxTiger!
Here is a HOW report from some Texans mixed in with some Riders from Missouri and Kentucky.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826706

Our route was modified for about one week of riding.

Tony is the Man and can massage this route to fit!

Where in N Texas are you from. I'm close to Sulphur Springs.
Thanks bigdon. I'm just east of Plano in Murphy.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:32 PM   #247
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Got the route email info today Tony. Appreciate the quick response. Also thanks for the advice on the right gps to get.

A somewhat amusing story, I have been holding out for the best price on the Montana 650 motorcycle bundle from gpscity.com. I missed out on the black Friday price so I thought I would lurk their website. This weekend I clicked on their website from my web history and unbeknown to me pulled up the black Friday webpage showing the bundle with $50 off. When I clicked on the product it showed it at regular price. I had to email them because they were closed and asked what was the deal? Then I figured out I had pulled up a dated link. I sent a follow up apologizing for my screw up. They sent me an email today saying they will give the BF price. Things are obviously shaping up for this trip! Already lucky.

Just don't want to be eaten by a bear. Have some time to invent an explodeable bear spray vest so I can sleep well.

Did you say it 18 degrees there? Very cold. We've been stuck in ice since Thursday evening. Talk to you soon with some questions I'm sure.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:42 PM   #248
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Ah! If only I were such a great shopper ...

That's a great unit, TxTiger. It'll accommodate the entire route without any downsizing, unlike older units with lesser data capacity.

And unlike its little sibling,the Oregon, it's daylight-readable.

Correction on that temperature you noted: You missed the negative symbol in front of the 18 ...

We're headed for negative 3 tonight ...
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:48 PM   #249
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A minus 18!! I would implode. OK. I'll quit complaining about +27.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:58 PM   #250
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Yea,
But it's a "dry" cold.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:59 PM   #251
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Thanks for the reminder, DP ... I feel warmer already ...
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Old 12-10-2013, 02:24 AM   #252
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Tony, our group also received the routing info yesterday. I'm looking forward to actually following this squiggly line in real life. From the previous pictures posted and words written, it should be a fun, challenging trip for us! It looks like we'll be starting out in Rawlins, but haven't decided clockwise or counter yet.

Oh, it's only 16 balmy degrees here too.
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Old 12-10-2013, 08:04 AM   #253
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From Rawlins, my thought would be to go south (to travel clockwise) toward Colorado on Day 1. With major new routing I plotted for 2013, things get real good real soon that way, at least to my eye.





Besides, south is downhill ...
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Old 12-11-2013, 06:11 PM   #254
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Tony, I've been reading through the information you provided and it just gets one more pumped about this ride.

We are coming from Texas and think we should land somewhere in Colorado to start the ride. We would need a place to keep our pickup truck and trailer and something close to the route. Do you have any advice here before I start doing some calling? If you don't any info I come up with I will share to help others coming from the south.
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:23 PM   #255
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Hey TxT:

I've nowhere specifically to recommend. A post in ADV's Rocky Mountain "Regional" forum might turn up something (or someone).

ADV's "Tent space" thread could turn up a parking space as well. Inmates seem always ready to assist.

Often motels permit H.o.W. travelers to leave vehicles parked in an out-of-the-way spot if they book-end the trip at the lodging.

I know much-praised little Oak Creek Motel, in Oak Creek, Colorado -- at the route's eastern edge -- has generously accommodated H.o.W. parking needs. (As have casinos at the route's west end, at West Wendover, Nevada.) I've included a track for a beautiful ride to and from Oak Creek to the main route as well.

About an hour (58 miles) west of Meeker, at Rangely, is Rio Blanco County's pleasant (except for the ants) Rangely Camper Park (waypointed in the file). They might be able to offer long-term parking, though I suspect there might be a fee.

Local airports have worked well elsewhere, if there is one. Outdoor storage businesses, including U-Haul lots, may be helpful as well.

I hope these are at least starting points, TxT. Do let us know what you come up with!

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