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Old 12-03-2012, 09:44 PM   #31
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What a crack up! I could read those guys thoughts. "I've got an insane rider on a ton of metal closing on me, maybe I just let him go by and watch the carnage from a distance." I've never seen so many guys take a look over there shoulder during a race.

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Old 12-03-2012, 09:45 PM   #32
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All I can do is echo all that's been posted...

Awesome riding.

Great course.

Fun vid.

And, amazing handling of such a brutish machine.

A part of the woods section gave me a post-traumatic flashback to my last concussion, and set of broken ribs. I'll think I'll go grab a Xanax, and try to relax...

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Old 12-04-2012, 05:08 AM   #33
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Man, thanks for all the great comments. Im on my phone at work and will post as soon as I can about tires and susp. along w a pic. Next one is in 2 months. Im gonna train hard for it
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:00 AM   #34
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Man, thanks for all the great comments. Im on my phone at work and will post as soon as I can about tires and susp. along w a pic. Next one is in 2 months. Im gonna train hard for it
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:51 AM   #35
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Very impressive. I rode a SE once and was amazed at how much more flickable it felt vs my 950A. Still, it is a hoss. Waaaay too much weight for tire pressure below 25 pounds though. Save this footage. It is special!
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:51 AM   #36
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Tops. It is slightly embarrassing to see what my SE could do....

What tyres were you using? And did you start at the back of the field as an unknown quantity?
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:22 PM   #37
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I'll chime in a little here (I was the SE right behind him at the staring line wearing the red moose gear).

We started at the back of the groups, as there were only three of us and Paul (the owner of highland park) didn't know who was going to show up or how well we might be able to ride the course. I think we proved that we need to start a bit more towards the front next time around.

I wasn't nearly as aggressive in my passing so I think you never see me past the first few corners of the MX track (on my video I almost ran into FD505 over one of the jumps) but it was a total hoot to ride the 950 fast in the woods for an hour and a half. I am totally worn out today (could have also been the 3 or 4 hours of riding I did after the race as well, half on my 950 on the same trails, and half back on the 450).

I ran a new Pirelli MT16 rear tire, 120/100-18 with a moose HD tube at 20psi. no problems with mine. Front I ran a lightly use pirelli MXMS 80/100-21 with HD tube and 20psi. I think the guy on the GS was running Michelin S12's and I think he said around 20psi? I lined up with 25psi, but after talking to him I dropped mine to around 20 as well. Worked fine with the heavy duty tubes. Next time I might run a mousse insert in the front if I can get my hands on one. I think in the future I might run the Scorpion Pro 90/90-21 front, and the XCMS rear 120/100-18 and see how they work unless it's drier and maybe keep the MT16 rear?

My biggest complaint for the race was my suspension. I have only had the bike about a month, and the suspension has been done in the past by SuperPlush (SPS) and it's been great but I don't think it was tuned with this kind of riding in mind. In the trails it was decent but there's a lot of water bars/jumps on the up (and down) hills, and I bottomed out every so often. next time i'll stiffen things up more and see if that helps. the second lap on the MX track I started to jump the jumps but the landings were sketchy (i.e. I thought I was going to crash twice) so I decided fear was better than valor and rolled off over the jumps on the MX track. I did continue to air out a few on the trails though, I'll try to post another video of part of my ride tomorrow (camera was pointed too low and there's mud on the lens, so it's kind of annoying). I was there for the experience, not necessarily to win. :)

but it was crazy fun and really a blast. Highland Park will be doing another race the end of January/early Feb and he will definitely have an ADV/V-twin class again. Everyone loved hearing and seeing them in action!
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:04 PM   #38
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That is some good stuff. Love the double takes some of the riders give when you pass them. What a great display of skill.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:42 PM   #39
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Awesome footage.

So, who won the class?
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:04 PM   #40
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Hell yeah, I rate this thread metaljockey just based on that vid in post 1, I was laughin' my ass off!
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:19 PM   #41
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Man these comments made it all worth it. I'd be lying if I said I did it without knowing it would get noticed. So thanks a lot. The next round will be around Feb. 1st in Cedartown, GA. @ Highland Park.

I had one of best suspension guys around re valve the forks just two days prior. I only bottomed once but I wasn't jumping either. I need stiffer springs but he didn't have any around....and would have someting that stiff just laying around. So, I need a stiffer spring to push harder but they did fine actually compared to it before where it would bottom. Now the truth, I'm fat.. 250 lbs. fat. I am working hard on that. Was 260 and now 245, hope to be less than 220 and continue mtn. biking. So 250 plus 10 lb. tech10's, and another 10 maybe for camel back,helmet, chest prot. etc.etc. The bike 420 with 3.5 gals. gas., 1 gallon oil, 1/2 gallon anti freeze I bet the bike is 460ish me 270ish. Either way we're over 700 lbs. WTHeck!

I mounted brand new Geomax intermediates. 120 rear. I paid to mount S-12's two days before but lost sleep thinking what the hell, that front tire is going to fold like crazy on hard pack. Swapped to the Geomax and I was calm again. I had over 20 psi when mounted but used poor judgement in dropping to 18 psi. thinking I'd get a bit more grab, Since the SE doesn't run rear rim locks stock, I completely never thought about it. It's been 4 years since I raced and you forget twisting the throttle before the bike starts on the dead engine start. Also a mistake. I got a flat on the last little log obstacle before the start/finish line and I was done after just one lap and was literally and mentally deflated. Major bummer.

The guy on the HP2 was ripping beacuse I became a spectator after one lap and witnessed it. Jeff was ripping too on his big SE also, and we mixed it up a bit but we were starting on the last row and had some 150 lb. bike to be careful around. Hopefully next time the organizer will move us up a row. The HP2 finished first. He roosted me like I've never felt before. I knew at the time it was insane roost, but didn't realize it was the HP2 till watching the footage. I mean 2mm to left and the footage would have been ruined by roost. I was going to remove the center stand for the big pipe obstacles but thought I'd just go around them instead. A fellow ADVrider was watching the bimmer navigate through the tires and said he yanked a tire out some to make room for him to clear the big motor through. Would have loved to see that and film it, too cool.

At the race with a race number. How cute I'm still in pain from pushing it up the ramp with a flat tire on pure adrenaline. I was frustrated and just wanted to get out of there, but luckily hit reverse and hung out with good peeps to watch the racers finish and talk dirt bikes making for a good day after all.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:09 AM   #42
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Great, great footage. Thanks so much.

Don't know why, but for some reason it reminded me of hare scrambles in the early 60s. I had a BSA 441 Victor then, but there were quite a few 650 BSA and Triumphs! Must be the heavy 2 cylinder 4 stroke sound that brought back those memories. Anyway, thanks again for the "ride".

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:41 AM   #43
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it is the best footage I've seen with big enduro bikes.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:50 AM   #44
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another view (albeit a bit slower) of parts of the race as well. camera was pointed too low (I'm used to the chest mount on my 450), and I got hosed at the start with mud from the HP2e, so there's a nice blob on the lens.. but at least it's another aspect of the race. Like I said I need to be more aggressive in my passing, I just rode around till I had a good spot to pass.

But it was fun and i'll be back for more. This was my second off road race, and have only had the 950 about a month or two so far. stupid fun.

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Old 12-05-2012, 08:30 AM   #45
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Impressive riding man.

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