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Old 12-08-2012, 01:19 PM   #16
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Sidebike wrote: >>>>Most of the members of this board have never ridden one and have nothing to compare it to. I have owned and ridden High Performance Sidecars for 23 years now. I know they are not for everyone, but I am going on 70 and would never go back to a standard rig. I don't understand why they have never caught on in North America or, for that matter any English speaking country, but they are popular in France, Belgium, Germany, Holland and Switzerland.<<<<

Good to see your post Roger. We have had numerous HPS outfits here in the shop.. The one that really tripped my trigger was a ZX14/ Hannigan which I really hated to see leave. This was Dave's original outfit which I know you and Bill were quite familar with. Awsome machines.
I really don't understand totally why they have not caught on more here in the states. Expense? Not totally sure if that is the reason. Take a new Goldwing and add a trike conversion to it and there is no small amount of dollars laid down. Yep the HPS type sidecars are a small market so far here in the states.
I think some day America will get more into the idea that a sidecar outfit is to be a sidecar outfit more than just a bike with a sidecar hung on the side of it.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:23 PM   #17
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http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...70#post8992470

go to post #1271 to see Bad Cats old street rig.
I want one
Nice but not quite what I was thinking, if you want to keep up with a HPS you would need something more like this

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Old 12-08-2012, 10:27 PM   #18
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I have a picture, that shows the two directions off european performance
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Nice but why not combine the two.
Here we have a Honda CBR1100XX RDS Dual Sport with Hub Center Steering Sidecar and TWO WHEEL DRIVE this rig won it's class in the Peking to Paris Rally and also completed in the Paris Dakar Rally
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:04 AM   #19
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:13 PM   #20
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I really don't understand totally why they have not caught on more here in the states. Expense? Not totally sure if that is the reason. Take a new Goldwing and add a trike conversion to it and there is no small amount of dollars laid down. Yep the HPS type sidecars are a small market so far here in the states.
I think some day America will get more into the idea that a sidecar outfit is to be a sidecar outfit more than just a bike with a sidecar hung on the side of it.
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It might have something to do with age. The average age of sidecar riders in NA has to be up in the sixties by now. Back in 1985 when I was a member of a French Sidecar Club (ASF) the average age was 35 and I believe it was 55 in NA. At 43 I was one of the oldest members.
I don't know how to get younger people interested in sidecars when their friends are riding busa, R1 and ZX14 with the exception of the ZX14 nobody in NA is making a HPS.

Sidecar John had this to say in the Sidecars On Line after returning from the European Sidecar Rally:
"Probably, the most crucial issue, certainly when compared to other European countries, is the
dated nature of sidecar design in the UK. The so called classic look is all very well, but the
newest design amongst the longer term manufacturers is nigh on 40 years old, others date back
to the 1950s. Fine if you want to hitch a 1950s sidecar to a 1950s style motorcycle, but hardly
attractive for newer machinery, and certainly not comparable to the sidecars available in
mainland Europe."
You can download a free copy of Sidecars On Line here: http://www.sidecarjohn.co.uk/
I don't know of any French sidecar manufacturers who had to switch to building trikes to stay alive.

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Old 12-29-2012, 11:06 PM   #21
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Claude know's what is on the block in my shop...
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:21 PM   #22
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Claude know's what is on the block in my shop...
What's that? You got something new coming out?

Not that this has anything to do with that, but did you know that BF Goodrich makes the Mud Terrain KM2 in a 215/75-15?



What kind of sidecar outfit could be built around such a tire?
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:07 PM   #23
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Claude know's what is on the block in my shop...
LOL....Yes, Brock can't wait to see it.
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Old 12-30-2012, 03:43 PM   #24
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LOL....Yes, Brock can't wait to see it.
D'oh. I hate it when there are insider secrets.

How long do we have to wait, Brock?

HOW LONG??!!
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