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Old 12-21-2012, 05:38 AM   #16
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I don't know about camping in the Blackforest as I haven't done it, but there are camp sites across Germany. A Gasthaus with plenty of beer and wine is easy.

Check this site out for places to stay in Europe, many of whom cater to bikes and provide covered parking: http://www.tourenfahrer-hotels.de/

We stayed here in the Blackforest-garage for bikes, great food and plenty of beer:
Hotel Lawine
Fahl 7
79674 Todtnau
Doris Wasmer-Mink
Deutschland
Tel: 049-07676/93330
Fax: 07676/933319
www.lawine.de (click on “zimmeranfrage” and then click on the British flag for english)
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:00 AM   #17
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I finally made it to Nurburgring in my 911 a couple months ago. Of course it was overcast and foggy. Made two trips around. The terrain elevation changes were more than I was expecting. Great time.
Yes - somewhere around 1,000 feet of elevation change, IIRC. On my first lat in 2009, I was completely lost (or as lost as one can be on a closed course) and had no idea of where I was or what was coming next. Fun, but less than satisfying.

Skip forward to November, 2010 and GT5 comes out with the Nordschliefe as one of its tracks.

Many laps later, I find myself back at the track on "Old Faithful" - my 83K mile+ '93 GSX1100G in July of 2011.

MUCH better - I actually had a pretty good idea of what was coming up next and could enjoy the ride this time as I knew when I could open the throttle and when I'd better not

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Old 12-21-2012, 01:03 PM   #18
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Well,there are some good campsites in blackforest,but i do not know any recommendation as.

Watch here: http://www.schwarzwald-geniessen.de/...show.php?id=13

And a nice hotel here in the northern bf. is this: http://www.bikerhotel.de/

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Old 12-22-2012, 10:50 AM   #19
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Hallo Phil,

you can vistit http://www.fraenkische-schweiz.com/bilderbogen/en.html

and the known meeting place for for motorcycles Kathi Brau near Aufseß

Greetings from Upper Franconia
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:01 PM   #20
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Jep, thats very good. Send all the Strangers to the Schwarzwald. So I can enjoy the Eifel and the Ardennes for my own pleasure. . .
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:45 AM   #21
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...So I can enjoy the Eifel and the Ardennes for my own pleasure. . .
Last year, the Nurburgring area was booked solid - what with races and touristenfahrten - so I got a room at Spangdahlem AB (advantage of being Retired US Military) about 60 Kms away. Gorgeous riding! I also took a side trip to Bastogne, and could have cheerfully spent a week just riding around.

Great roads, superb scenery and almost no traffic.
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:34 AM   #22
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Last year, the Nurburgring area was booked solid - what with races and touristenfahrten - so I got a room at Spangdahlem AB (advantage of being Retired US Military) about 60 Kms away. Gorgeous riding! I also took a side trip to Bastogne, and could have cheerfully spent a week just riding around.

Great roads, superb scenery and almost no traffic.
Uhhh, touristenfahrten are open to the public days...
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:23 PM   #23
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Hi Phil,

the blackforest - as said before!

And if you are looking for good trips there look here:
Südschwarzwald
Nordschwarzwald
Hoehepunkte des Südschwarzwaldes

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Old 12-27-2012, 01:20 AM   #24
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I passed by Neuschwanstein in late august this year and it was covered in scaffolding , not great for pics :-(, if you're heading down that way its not too far to Hitlers eagles nest at Berchtesgaden, Stunning area for bikes.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:38 AM   #25
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Uhhh, touristenfahrten are open to the public days...
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There were races being held on the GP course, and Touristenfahrten on the Nordschliefe. Between the two of them, the general area around Nurburg / Adenau was booked solid. Booking into Spangdahlem AB was the path of least resistance.

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Old 01-14-2013, 03:27 PM   #26
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IF you are into beer - try Andechs, nice monastery with beerhall just as the beerhall in Tegernsee. There's plenty of little breweries which brew some nice stuff. If you need more locations. let me know.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:14 AM   #27
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MOST important thing ignore the post above you want gyros NOT donner, gyros is fantastic its real meat layered and and then grilled, donner is minced (crap) pressed together and is rubbish.

Right then that out of the way, have a look at lake constance and go to the Zepplin musem at Fredrichshafen.
Heidelberg Castle is worth a look
Bitche in the Alsace is a fantastic citadel
Niedereschach is the HQ of Touratech and worth a vist
There is a small motorcycle muesum in Oberwolfach
The B500 is the senic road to ride, but if you get off the main road then any of the small ones are very good
Schonau is a nice town for a visit,
you wont find many ibis in the black forest however almost every village will have a pub/guesthouse and they are normally very good value, we didnt book anything in advance.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:20 AM   #28
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Actually Bowser is talking out of his arse about the Donner and Gyro meat. The main difference between and Donner and a Gyro is that Donner it is very likely Halel. Which means that the meat was inspected at some point to ensure it wasn't made from unholy animals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_%28food%29

Gyros can be made from many more types of "meat". Growing up I always ate Kosher so I don't consider pork to be food.

Not that any of this matters at all. the main thing is that you have a nice trip and eat food you like.


there you go a man from the other side of the world with no idea at all, what he is talking about
Gyros is a term used all over the place and means different things in different places same with donner, IN GERMANY in particular, donner is normaly meat pressed on to a larger skewer into one complete mass with no distinct meat pieces, and grilled normaly about 3 feet tall and foot and a half or so in diamater. Served in a pitta bread with a range of other shXX, no idea exactly whats in it but its supposed to be lamb only.
Gyros is normally slices of real meat, which is layered onto the same type of skewer after having been first been marinated, local butchers will make up their own so different shops will have different taste, it is lamb, never known gyros to be anything but, although you can get a chicken type that is similar. Gyros is often served on a plate with kraut salat, onions and Tzatziki,

I make no comment about what its called elsewhere in the world but lived and worked long enough in Germany to know what I am asking for in a restraunt and what I am expecting to eat.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:00 PM   #29
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The South has been mentioned a lot now, but you can have a lot of fun right in the middle of germany too!

A Lot of low-mountain Ranges offer really beautiful roads and landscapes:

-Eifel
-Hunsrück
-Taunus
-Rhön
-Thüringer Wald
-Bergisches Land
-Bayrischer Wald
-Harz

Trust me!

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:09 PM   #30
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Phil.....try the German Alpine road. It is mostly in Bavaria and you can pick it up at Lake Constance (Bodensee) after you enter Germany from the West and take it East all the way to Berchtesgaden. It will take you past the Schloss Neuschwanstein.

http://www.deutsche-alpenstrasse.de/en/home/

Along the way: Schloss Linderhof, Wies Kirche, Ettal Monastary, Garmisch, Tegernsee, and the Eaglesnest (in Berchtesgaden). The Eaglesnest (Kehlstein in German) was Hitler's Tea House at the top of the Kehlstein.

http://www.kehlsteinhaus.de/en/

You should not need any assistance with finding beer or good food. My favorite: schweinehaxe (roasted pork knuckle). You really can't go wrong with any of the beers.

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