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Old 12-08-2012, 07:43 PM   #16
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Wis,
Run some Kenda 270's.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:14 PM   #17
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shinko 244's are much cheaper.

Or whatever I have on. It's only rubber.

IMHO sand is not real tire sensitive. Mud on the other hand.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:20 AM   #18
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Thanks for all the replies and keep them coming. The suggestions have me looking at bikes I have not thought about before (KTM's). When you get to a 600cc bike, would there really be that much of a difference jumping to up an 800cc bike at that point (e.g. Tiger 800XC, etc)?
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:01 AM   #19
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Thanks for all the replies and keep them coming. The suggestions have me looking at bikes I have not thought about before (KTM's). When you get to a 600cc bike, would there really be that much of a difference jumping to up an 800cc bike at that point (e.g. Tiger 800XC, etc)?
I rode a KTM 950 for seven years. It was a truly GREAT fire road bike with the right tires. It was so well suspended that it sucked up washouts, baby heads and such without getting upset. It was a bit of a handful in mud, but not bad. I was going to replace it with a new 990, but I ride solo a lot and really needed something I could pick up by myself. I bought a new 690R to fill the bill. 150lbs lighter and just as quick. Expensive for a thumper, though.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:45 AM   #20
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Thanks for all the replies and keep them coming. The suggestions have me looking at bikes I have not thought about before (KTM's). When you get to a 600cc bike, would there really be that much of a difference jumping to up an 800cc bike at that point (e.g. Tiger 800XC, etc)?
a BIG difference in weight, 100+ lbs. The 600 class singles generally handle being dropped/crashed with less damage to the bike and rider too and are much easier to pick up singlehanded. I ride about the same distance to get to fire roads and my DR650 works fine

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Old 12-09-2012, 05:06 AM   #21
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Depends on three things. What roads are you riding when you get there, how deep are your pockets and you want used or new....

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Old 12-09-2012, 05:51 AM   #22
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Not really helpful. It is for fire service roads as mentioned. gravely, ruts at times, holes, yada yada. I was looking for people preferences for this situation and why so I know what to check out.



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Old 12-09-2012, 06:25 AM   #23
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WR250R for a dirtbike style

Dakar for an adventure bike style

DR650SE kind of splits the difference
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:02 AM   #24
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I was asking those questions. After I know the answers I can give you a very good idea on what to look at.....that's why I wanted to know these things. If your ripping tight trails and have lots of coin to toss at a bike I would say a new klx450, add a dual sport kit and go mad. If you are just running wide open fire roads that are not very technical, and you don't want to spend a ton, pick up a used klr or Dr 650.

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Old 12-09-2012, 08:03 AM   #25
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I was asking those questions. After I know the answers I can give you a very good idea on what to look at.....that's why I wanted to know these things. If your ripping tight trails and have lots of coin to toss at a bike I would say a new klx450, add a dual sport kit and go mad. If you are just running wide open fire roads that are not very technical, and you don't want to spend a ton, pick up a used klr or Dr 650.

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Or even a s10 for a long range bike.

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Old 12-09-2012, 09:15 AM   #26
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When you get to a 600cc bike, would there really be that much of a difference jumping to up an 800cc bike at that point (e.g. Tiger 800XC, etc)?
I have a F800GS with an aftermarket suspension and a 690R. On the highway, and on open fire roads, I'd rather be on the F8--considerably faster (surprise!) and more comfortable at the same time. So if you aren't planning to ride singletrack or gnarly-rocky stuff very much, I'd stay with the 800 class.

The 690 shines best if you want to ride 50 miles on roads (paved or dirt) but also be able to keep up with the 450s in tighter stuff. The 690 is also much easier to drag out of a mudhole. The 690 is cheaper to crash. I'm an old XR600/650 rider from way back--the 690 is worth every extra penny, on-road and off.

For me personally, the only reason I have two primary bikes: TIRES!!!
I run K60s on the F8 and Motoz Desert H/Ts on the 690. When all is considered, the bike I hop on is the one that has the right tires for the ride I plan.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:58 AM   #27
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I have a F800GS with an aftermarket suspension and a 690R. On the highway, and on open fire roads, I'd rather be on the F8--considerably faster (surprise!) and more comfortable at the same time. So if you aren't planning to ride singletrack or gnarly-rocky stuff very much, I'd stay with the 800 class.

The 690 shines best if you want to ride 50 miles on roads (paved or dirt) but also be able to keep up with the 450s in tighter stuff. The 690 is also much easier to drag out of a mudhole. The 690 is cheaper to crash. I'm an old XR600/650 rider from way back--the 690 is worth every extra penny, on-road and off.

For me personally, the only reason I have two primary bikes: TIRES!!!
I run K60s on the F8 and Motoz Desert H/Ts on the 690. When all is considered, the bike I hop on is the one that has the right tires for the ride I plan.
If you were planning to replace your GSA with one bike that was more fun off road, I would say a KTM 950/990, BMW 800 or Tiger. If you are keeping it though I would want to add more variety myself, and 100 lbs of weight is a huge difference off road, even 50 is.

I agree with tires being the biggest issue. Any decent knobby isn't going to be a ton of fun on the highway, even though it is plenty bearable, and by the time you get to the dirt after a few long highway trips, it's not so much of a knobby any more. I had an XRR with Michelin T-63s and it was fine all around, but still not really a "dirt bike" especially in sand.

That's why I recommend a supermoto, you don't give up anything on the street and they are still plenty capable in the dirt if its not deep sand or mud. As a bonus they make great commuter/run to the store/quick afternoon backroads bikes, and are a ton of fun.

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Old 12-09-2012, 01:02 PM   #28
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... I agree with tires being the biggest issue... That's why I recommend a supermoto, you don't give up anything on the street and they are still plenty capable in the dirt if its not deep sand or mud...
Yeah, if I was forced to choose only one bike/setup, it would be the F8 with knobbies, because I need the length/strength for 2up camping with my wife. However, if she lost interest in going and I had to choose one bike/setup, it would probably be the 690 with road tires (K60 or similar).

But--although I do enjoy twisties, my primary love is dirt--so I doubt I would go all the way to a SM setup, unless it was a 3rd bike (hmmmm, I have been a good boy this year ). If everyone had the same needs it would be a dull world, eh?
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:48 PM   #29
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If everyone had every bike they wanted....what a fun world it would be. There. Fixed... I agree on the f8. Great choice.

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Old 12-09-2012, 04:25 PM   #30
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DR650, would be perfect, unless you just want to throw away money and work on your bike then KTM.
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