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Old 12-12-2012, 08:58 PM   #46
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I miss all my 2 stroke dual sports, and I pretty much owned most of them. I just miss 2 strokes on the street in general.....
I don't. At least not any more. I took advantage of the open titles on KTM's and now I have stupid fast , ridiculously light and entirely too much fun two stroke dual sport.

But, like I said earlier, about the only things it has in common with a 1970's two stroke dual sport are two wheels and two stroke oil.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:06 AM   #47
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:23 AM   #48
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I fixt your picture.

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:03 AM   #49
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My 1987 TT350 Yamaha was both faster and smoother than my current DRZ 400. It had a 6 speed and great torque right off the bottom. Reliable as a stone axe. Had a comfortable seat compared to todays offerings. You had to make it street legal but that was no problem in MI. But then something happened. Yamaha lost interest in TTs for many years and they got smaller and lower. The WR250R is a comeback of sorts but I still got to wonder if Yamaha gets it at all. AMERICANS ARE BIG PEOPLE AND DON'T WANT 250s SO GIVE ME A 350-400 AGAIN PLEASE!
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:08 AM   #50
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My 1987 TT350 Yamaha was both faster and smoother than my current DRZ 400
Foul!

If we let every dirtbike turned into a street legal bike in here all the "dual sports" might as well go home.

XR400, XR650R,TT500, Maico whatever. There's at least two Yamaha 490's running around up here, etc, etc. I saw a KTM 380 blast by not long ago. WR400/426/450.

But funny you should point out - has anyone mentioned the XT350? I test rode a local for sale bike out and thought it monumentaly flat and boring. Maybe it grows on you.... i wonder if the DR350 would seem like that to me?
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:01 AM   #51
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But, but ..... my XT350 was an awesome motorcycle.

So what if the stock jetting was so bad it would barely run or the skinny little forks would bottom running over a dime or that it came with minibike sized 428 chain and sprockets?
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:50 AM   #52
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But, but ..... my XT350 was an awesome motorcycle.

So what if the stock jetting was so bad it would barely run or the skinny little forks would bottom running over a dime or that it came with minibike sized 428 chain and sprockets?

....Or the crazy carb/carbs set up
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:25 AM   #53
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I don't miss my old bikes, especially the 2 strokes. Does anybody else remember carrying a 6-pack of spark plugs? How about tiny air filters that took 1/2 hour to remove and replace? Can anybody remember 4 to 6 inches of suspension travel, with no damping? Also tiny gas tanks, un-reliable oil injection, soft rims, flexible handlebars, and pistons with holes in them?

Modern bikes are better in every way and I would not want to go back.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:28 AM   #54
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The hole in the current offerings is in the middle. Excluding purpose built, street legal dirt bikes (EXC) team green and blue offer great 250 trail bikes that will do interstate time. Team orange and red offer great 650 bikes competent on tight trails and open off-road that are tour worthy. It would sure be nice to have something in the 450 class splitting the difference. Team yellow's 400 doesn't really add much because it's as heavy as a 650 but has the power of a modern 250. I had hopes that the 450 Dakar limit would result in a lighter longer maintenance interval dual sport offering.

I don't miss riding my 305 scrambler.

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Old 12-13-2012, 10:52 AM   #55
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yes..... where is the purpose built 450 DS.... I'll buy one
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:58 AM   #56
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One of my favorite bikes I have owned was my 1978 DT250, couldnt kill it!
Like this?



Whoa.. look at the hair on that boy. First bike I ever bought brand spankin' new. I didn't have my license so my brother borrowed the van from work. When we got back I ran upstairs to get my helmet. By the time I got back out to the bike, he was doing wheelies up and down the parking lot! Up to this point, I hadn't even ridden it yet!

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Old 12-13-2012, 11:01 AM   #57
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:27 AM   #58
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..... First bike I ever bought brand spankin' new.......
My first brand new bike circa 1977. Not so new in that pic after a year of abuse. Note the tow rope on the back. Gotta love points ignition on a two stroke. Didn't somebody mention carrying a pocket full of plugs? I was funky cool with the pipe insulation padding and duct tape long before KLR650 riders made cheap cool. Not to mention how cool the Hang Ten shirt was ........ OK but at least I lived in a beach town and really did surf.





Dual sports from the 70's, 80's, 90's and 00's all on one ride a few weeks ago:

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Old 12-13-2012, 11:48 AM   #59
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Does anybody else remember carrying a 6-pack of spark plugs?
No. I'll tell you what I remember. One day in 1973, out riding near the local high school, I came upon a couple of kids looking at a small Yamaha RT series bike. The plug had fouled. I tried cleaning it but still couldn't get the bike started. Then I noticed it was the same plug as I had in my King Scorpion, so I put it in my bike and it started right up. A couple of long wheelies later I pulled the plug, put it back in the Yamaha, and the kid started it up and rode away. Those early Motoplats sometimes died an early death, but when they worked they were terrific. I never carried a spare plug and never needed one.

And while I wouldn't want to go back to 70's suspension, I think we have gone a little crazy on wheel travel. Does anybody really think we need over ten inches for adventure touring?

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I don't miss riding my 305 scrambler.
Maybe not, but I sure miss the way it sounded.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:54 AM   #60
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....... Does anybody really think we need over ten inches for adventure touring? ......


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