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Old 12-10-2012, 12:45 PM   #16
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That 900 for a helmet is less than one head CT.

Money well spent.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:25 PM   #17
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Could have been worse.
Last Sunday my wife went down right in front of me, I ran over her arm and broke it
She goes in for surgery tomorrow to bolt things back together.
Dirt or street?
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:04 PM   #18
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We were dirt riding. I was riding behind her on the inside of a left turn waiting to pass her on the straight. She lost the rear end and WHAM went down. I swerved, but still ended up running over her arm. Broke the Humerus in two spots. Luckily we had a guy with a splint kit along. After putting on the splint we had a long 8 mile ride to the ER.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:20 AM   #19
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Glad she wasn't hurt bad and things are good. My wife rides as well and when she was learning and dropped my bike in a parking lot my respond was the same as yours, its only a bike. I only hope I never have to experience watching her drop her bike on the street... (Had her go down off-road in front of me twice, but always keep a safe following distance so was easy for me to stop and help her up. [no major injuries as of yet])

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...I think alot of wives ride solo because their husbands push them to...or they're trying to spend time with their husbands by taking up the hobby. Honestly I think its a rare lady that truly wants to ride solo herself....I just don't think its something that thrills most ladies...
I have known a few that do it because they want time with there husbands and wouldn't ride solo otherwise. I find it interesting that most of the gals I know that ride do it because they want to though. My wife being one of them. Not discounting your statement that most do it because of time with the husbands or are pushed into it, I wouldn't doubt it at all as most of my life hasn't fit the norm...

The funny part is that she wanted to ride so she took the course and we got her a bike. But after 6 years of riding and maybe 15000 miles she told me she wanted to try riding dual sports. We got her a little CRF230L and went on a group ride, she was hooked! We are selling her street bike and all she wants to do now is play in the back woods and take adv rides with me and the kid on my bike. (10 year old daughter)

Some times life is strage the way it works out...
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:45 AM   #20
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Wow, I'm so glad she's OK! Hope she is out there again soon!
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:23 AM   #21
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Took it back to the dealer for a quote... $3,200

I'm just going to rebuild it myself. There was no frame damage- just lights and faring crap. I priced the parts out to be about $900 online.

$3,200 Jeezus- I've bought 4 bikes from these guys- you'd think they'd try not to fuck me so hard!

Wife's back to work today (we work in the same building). Her knee's black and blue and she's got a knot in her shoulders from gripping the bars so hard and tensing up before the dump. Her boss was joking with me yesterday- pointing out that most women "fall down the stairs"... mine has a "motorcycle accident".

I've been calling her Evil Kenevil all weekend- her office made her a name plate for her door.. "Crash"
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:24 AM   #22
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First of all, Infidel... very glad to hear Mrs Infidel is OK. BTDT and maybe getting her back on was the best thing that could have happened for her.

I've never been a great rider... still have some anxiety on tight curves but I love motorcycling too much to give up. She'll have mixed emotions about riding after this.
Bottom line is she'll ride her own if she misses the feeling of control.
Best wishes to her what ever her decision!

and IMHO this guy's a jerk left over from the 1950's ! "Wifey" ? WTF

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I don't want my wife to ride solo and neither does she......she loves riding behind me on my busa ( ) and the only reason she'd ever consider riding solo is because I wanted her to.
I think a lot of wives ride solo because their husbands push them to...or they're trying to spend time with their husbands by taking up the hobby. Honestly I think its a rare lady that truly wants to ride solo herself....I just don't think its something that thrills most ladies.

Let her sell the bike and just be a passenger......you'd be amazed how nice it can be sometimes having your wife holding onto you as you're cruising through beautiful vista's. I enjoy my high speed solo riding (what busa owner doesn't ) but I also enjoy riding with the wife.
And btw I've had her up to 165mph gps on a nice desert road and she loved it......so you don't ALWAYS have to go slow with the wifey
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:34 AM   #23
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Turn the $3200 in to the insurance, fix it yourself, save enough for a year and half of premiums on all 3 bikes!
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:50 AM   #24
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I After reviewing the GoPro... we went through the video frame-by-frame

You forgot the youtube link.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:14 AM   #25
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First of all, Infidel... very glad to hear Mrs Infidel is OK. BTDT and maybe getting her back on was the best thing that could have happened for her.

I've never been a great rider... still have some anxiety on tight curves but I love motorcycling too much to give up. She'll have mixed emotions about riding after this.
Bottom line is she'll ride her own if she misses the feeling of control.
Best wishes to her what ever her decision!

and IMHO this guy's a jerk left over from the 1950's ! "Wifey" ? WTF
Thanks, Pansy.

I generally don't push her in any direction- but I figured making her get back on the bike was the best thing for her head.

If she decides to keep riding, which I'm sure she will, we're going to take a Confidence Builder Course and get some track time in once the bike is back together. Her only mistake was breaking hard in the turn- pretty sure she won't be doing that again.

If she decides not to ride solo anymore, I'll just take the lowering link out and give the bike to my son. He's been eying that bike since she brought it home.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:32 AM   #26
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With a bike like that, there is no real need to use the rear brake. I usually tell people (mainly my gf) not to touch it on the street because during a panic brake, it is way to easy to lock up.

You can brake in turns, you just have to be smooth about it.

That is a flaw in the MSF program that I see. We are not all at the limit of traction in the turn, there is room to brake. In MSF they teach you to stand up the bike to brake. Well sure that works alright in an empty parking lot, but in a canyon is makes you run into the dirt.


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Old 12-11-2012, 11:08 AM   #27
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With a bike like that, there is no real need to use the rear brake. I usually tell people (mainly my gf) not to touch it on the street because during a panic brake, it is way to easy to lock up.

You can brake in turns, you just have to be smooth about it.

That is a flaw in the MSF program that I see. We are not all at the limit of traction in the turn, there is room to brake. In MSF they teach you to stand up the bike to brake. Well sure that works alright in an empty parking lot, but in a canyon is makes you run into the dirt.


This is just my opinion.
It's not just an opinion- it's true. I've come into many tight corners WAY too hot. Lightly dragging the back wheel just a bit to shift the weight and close in your radius works. MSF will fail you for it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:09 AM   #28
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I took a ride up to Mt. Lemmon this weekend before it gets icy. Two of my sport bike buddies and I ride up to The Saw Mill for brunch every couple of weeks. I love that ride because the 'Busa just eats the corners up. This weekend the children were hanging with friends so the wife decided to join in. She's got about 5k miles under her belt over the last 4 years- so she can hold her own but she's not a pro. She has a Ninja 650R with about 1100 miles on it. I just told my buddies we'd hang back and meet them at the top because I didn't want to push her out of her comfort zone and we generally fly up the hill.

I let her take our lead and made sure to let her know we were in NO rush. A bout 3 miles from the top she comes out of a right bend and leans into a left sweeper going about 35-40. The turn was shadowed by the mountain and there were t-barriers to prevent rock from rolling into the road.

Next thing I know, she's heading right for the t-wall and low siding on the right.. The last thing I saw (because I was in the turn at that point and couldn't swing my head to the right to look) was her head hit the wall and her left leg was under the bike. I couldn't get off the 'Busa fast enough. We have Cardo headsets- so as I was running back to her, she kept saying, "I'm okay, I'm okay." She banged up her left knee and scratched the shit out of an $800 Shoei... but she didn't break anything. Had she been wearing her riding pants instead of jeans- she probably wouldn't have banged up her knee.

I was able to pack up all the carnage and duct tape / zip tie the faring to a point of ride able. The low beam light was gone and the instrument panel was dead. The after market hand guard saved the break lever. I didn't have my pillion- so I made her get back on and finish the ride to the top. I figured if I had to leave it somewhere, the dinner would be the best place. She was like, "You expect me to get back on and ride?" I firmly said, "Yes. We'll go slow- and I'll talk to you the whole way."

We made it to The Saw Mill Dinner where my buddies were just getting ready to gear up and come down looking for us. After lunch, we secured any lose pieces with more tape and zip ties and I gave her the option of hanging out until I get back with a trailer or riding it home. I made sure she knew it was only a bike and I could care less about the damage, as long as she was okay.

She rode it home . I had to talk her through some of the corners because she was freaking out- but I explained that she'd been doing this for four years without incident and to remember everything she learned from the classes I made her take when she decided to start riding. It took FOREVER, but we made it home in time to dump it off at the dealer for an estimate.

After reviewing the GoPro- I discovered she attempted to slow down as she entered the curve (which was wet) momentarily locked up the rear break and instead of counter steering and using throttle control- she ignored all the training and went right to Survival Reaction 2-5

Trying not to be a dick (and that's hard for me), we went through the video frame-by-frame and went over everything she did wrong (to include removing her feet from the pegs ). This was an attempt to show her that she COULD have recovered and hopefully (unless she decides to sell the bike) she'll be able to react better if it happens again.

She's not sure what to do, but it's her option. Personally, after watching her reaction and how she handled the moment- I would feel better if she never rode solo again. I know laying a bike down is inevitable- hell- I've done it 6 or eight times. But watching the most important person in the world to you go down in front of you is the worst feeling ever.

P.S. Always carry a small roll duct tape and tip ties... best after action tools available.
Well, I'm new myself. But, given the amount of experience, 4 years, and 1100 miles on her bike. I feel with more time on her bike and less challenging a road. She should stay with it. However, I've a few close calls myself. Not falling off of the bike, myself, so that's an experience I haven't had ever.

So, not to judge, I feel more seat time would be a good thing, for your wife.

Thank GOD she was wearing her gear.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:46 AM   #29
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She banged up her left knee and scratched the shit out of an $800 Shoei... but she didn't break anything..

Wow. Good thing it wasn't a $825 Shoei.



Sorry but I found it interesting that you felt compelled to mention the price of the helmet.

I hope she heals fast and well.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:12 PM   #30
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She rode it home .
She's not sure what to do, but it's her option.

I know laying a bike down is inevitable- hell- I've done it 6 or eight times.

She 1
He 6 or 8

Riding it home was probably her least dangerous option.
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