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Old 03-10-2013, 09:50 AM   #76
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The new motor.



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That's a nice looking engine!

I like the sound too, it does sound like one of the old Indians.....well done Polaris!
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:33 PM   #77
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The new motor will power 3 new models. From my source, the lowest cost model will be under $16,000. Not cheap, but a hell of a lot less then their previous bikes.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:47 PM   #78
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The new motor will power 3 new models. From my source, the lowest cost model will be under $16,000. Not cheap, but a hell of a lot less then their previous bikes.
When are we actually going to be able to sit on them?
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Old 03-10-2013, 02:25 PM   #79
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Got kind of a flat head look,nice start.Like to see one with Scout features instead of Chief though.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:21 PM   #80
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The new motor will power 3 new models. From my source, the lowest cost model will be under $16,000. Not cheap, but a hell of a lot less then their previous bikes.
If that's the case, then they've got a chance. Especially if the product is competitive.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:55 PM   #81
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The new motor will power 3 new models. From my source, the lowest cost model will be under $16,000. Not cheap, but a hell of a lot less then their previous bikes.
Indian is being marketed by Polaris as a "premium" brand. I don't believe they will have any model near $16K.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:53 PM   #82
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Indian is being marketed by Polaris as a "premium" brand. I don't believe they will have any model near $16K.
Yeah, I figured that, and I understand it.

But, if they're going to start in the mid-to-late 20's for a stripped Cheif, they're not going anywhere. No lower rungs on the pricing ladder for potential buyers.

That would be too bad, as that new 111 motor looks very good. Sounds good, too.

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Old 03-10-2013, 10:44 PM   #83
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$16K could actually put Indian back in the market. But Polaris will probably screw it up and try to sell it as artwork for 3 times that much.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:46 PM   #84
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It is a different angle than an X wedge, had unique heads, so the cam profiles and cams will not cross, crank has different balance etc. Yes, it has a lot on common, there are only so many ways to skin a cat. There will be little parts crossover, and I would bet it makes a less power too since it the heads have exhaust ports designed for nostalgia, not optimum for flow. It does look to me a prettier engine than an X wedge

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It's an undersquare design, with a wedge head. That means a torque motor.

Perfectly befitting what it's going into...a heavy cruiser.

It would also go into a smaller bike (Scout, anyone?) with a suitable reduction in displacement.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:09 AM   #85
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Guess clone was to harsh, but the three cams are pretty much the same so let's say it's a genetically modifyed clone
Also a unit construction, the S&S is not by the way.
I missed that it was unit construction.
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Go to the Motus thread for that.
That's just mean
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:05 AM   #87
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My first thought on seeing the motor pic was X-wedge.
Then again talking with the techs tearing down a Panigale motor at Ducati Island in Indy last year , I commented that my old XV920 Yamaha had a cam chain running up the outside of each cylinder on opposite sides and reverseable heads as well, like the Panigale.
And he said "There are components that have to be there and there are only so many ways to arrange them."

And that's about the only way a XV motor compares to a Panigale motor .
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:19 PM   #88
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Indy redux

That new mill from Indian certainly looks the part. I'm thrilled to see designers paying some attention to the aesthetics of the power plant again. (W-800, CB 1100, ) No tumorous lumps or jungle vines of tubing strewn about. There does not seem to be anything exciting technically here, air cooled, pushrods, huge displacement, long, tall, & heavy... nothing to see here folks, just move on. It does sure look pretty though. Maybe if they cut off one barrel & put it in a street tracker frame & whittled weight down to 450 lbs? A 60 HP single that looked that good, in a bike that could actually be made to stop & turn....now you'd have something. I know, just a dream....Polaris is anchored to the Milwaukee Clone path of lest resistance. Can't americans read an actuarial table?
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:36 PM   #89
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Can't americans read an actuarial table?
What is that supposed to mean?

HD and cruisers ARE the market in the USA. Everything else is a niche.
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http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/744/15...reamliner.aspx

New streamliner used to showcase the new engine.
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