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Old 01-21-2013, 10:39 PM   #91
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Fogo, What year model barell will fit that?
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:00 PM   #92
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Fogo, What year model barell will fit that?
They all mix and match, "R's" fit "C's", "C's" fit "A's", "A's" fit "R's" 1993 to 2002.

If we could only retro fit roller bearings to the cams. If I had a lathe and mill I'd give it a go.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:19 PM   #93
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They all mix and match, "R's" fit "C's", "C's" fit "A's", "A's" fit "R's" 1993 to 2002.

If we could only retro fit roller bearings to the cams. If I had a lathe and mill I'd give it a go.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:26 PM   #94
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They all mix and match, "R's" fit "C's", "C's" fit "A's", "A's" fit "R's" 1993 to 2002.

If we could only retro fit roller bearings to the cams. If I had a lathe and mill I'd give it a go.
Does the cam run in the alloy head or slipper bearings ?
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:34 PM   #95
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There’s trouble in the camp.
I need to learn to leave shit alone after nightshift.
This is how it went,
Quick flick through the manual, revove the valve guides, yes, knock the guides out from the top after heating up the area with a butane torch, Ahhhhh shit I’m tired, yep done that now for the tapping, Tap Tap Tap knock bang belt flog ping, oh there it is, well half of it. oh fuck that looks ugly. Just read this book again, yep thats right. I might just tap it out the other way, somethings not right. Tap Tap ping, theres the other half. Oh shit the book said knock it out from the top, but they meant knock the guide from the bottom out the top. result fucked head. I knocked another guide back in and the valve is now on the piss. Took it to two engine reconditioners today and they both said throw it in the bin. Looks like I'm up for a new head.
Oh that’s right THEIR DISCONTINUED. This may be the end for Kermit.
Anyone want a KLX650 frame to push their kids around the back yard on.

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Old 01-22-2013, 12:07 AM   #96
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Does the cam run in the alloy head or slipper bearings ?
Just alloy.

Look after 20 years there is not much that we haven't got right on this engine. The next engine in Kermit should be a good one. So many KLX's over the years have picked up and distroyed the cam tunnels. If you use car oil and heavy duty clutch springs thats a thing of the past. The auto cam chain tensioner used to shit its self and skip a tooth on the cam sprocket and valves used to hit pistons. We all now use custom machined manual tensioners. The Decompression mech on the exhaust cam used to fly to bits and root everything. I smashed mine out of the cam and threw it in the bin. KLX's have allways sucked fine dust through the airbox and carbie boots, so seal them up, the nikisil bores don't like fine dust or heavily load bikes, seemed to slobber oil out the breather into the airbox for recycling, Fit a cast iron (steel) liner in the barrel, Fit a magnet sump plug and your away

So what happened to Kermit on the Longest day ride reveiled.

I ended up in an argument with the local CBC bearing store yestrerday, they admitted that a less experianced salesman sold me a seal that was the wrong one, It was a $5 dollar dust seal rated at 10 psi back pressure.
The proper seal that I gave him was a Kawasaki seal made by NSK with the NSK part number on it. He asked what it was for and I told him. So he gets me a dust seal. I have been a diesel mechanic for 25 years but not a seal expert. Thats what he is for, thats his job.
It looked the same. Its like when you go to the chemist to get your Viagra script and they say " Do you want our generic brand sir" NO I want what the doctor prescribed for me. I dont want to lay in bed for 3 days with a rageing hard on. So I want the bloody seal with the same numbers on it OR a seal that is rated to the original.
So I just told the salesmen what it meant to me. $5 wrong seal, stiff shit, 6 months at the gym getting ready for the longest day, the pre running, the dream of not being there with Boris and Dan at the end. Being stranded on the side of the road at Bourke in 43 deg heat, the humiliation and embaressment that my bike never gets out there. The fact that a good mate drove 7 hours to come get me, the $2000 rebuild of an engine in a shit box bike.
But thats allright mate it was only a little fuck up just a little $5 seal, I will sell you the right one next time.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:13 AM   #97
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Just alloy.

Look after 20 years there is not much that we haven't got right on this engine. The next engine in Kermit should be a good one. So many KLX's over the years have picked up and distroyed the cam tunnels. If you use car oil and heavy duty clutch springs thats a thing of the past. The auto cam chain tensioner used to shit its self and skip a tooth on the cam sprocket and valves used to hit pistons. We all now use custom machined manual tensioners. The Decompression mech on the exhaust cam used to fly to bits and root everything. I smashed mine out of the cam and threw it in the bin. KLX's have allways sucked fine dust through the airbox and carbie boots, so seal them up, the nikisil bores don't like fine dust or heavily load bikes, seemed to slobber oil out the breather into the airbox for recycling, Fit a cast iron (steel) liner in the barrel, Fit a magnet sump plug and your away

So what happened to Kermit on the Longest day ride reveiled.

I ended up in an argument with the local CBC bearing store yestrerday, they admitted that a less experianced salesman sold me a seal that was the wrong one, It was a $5 dollar dust seal rated at 10 psi back pressure.
The proper seal that I gave him was a Kawasaki seal made by NSK with the NSK part number on it. He asked what it was for and I told him. So he gets me a dust seal. I have been a diesel mechanic for 25 years but not a seal expert. Thats what he is for, thats his job.
It looked the same. Its like when you go to the chemist to get your Viagra script and they say " Do you want our generic brand sir" NO I want what the doctor prescribed for me. I dont want to lay in bed for 3 days with a rageing hard on. So I want the bloody seal with the same numbers on it OR a seal that is rated to the original.
So I just told the salesmen what it meant to me. $5 wrong seal, stiff shit, 6 months at the gym getting ready for the longest day, the pre running, the dream of not being there with Boris and Dan at the end. Being stranded on the side of the road at Bourke in 43 deg heat, the humiliation and embaressment that my bike never gets out there. The fact that a good mate drove 7 hours to come get me, the $2000 rebuild of an engine in a shit box bike.
But thats allright mate it was only a little fuck up just a little $5 seal, I will sell you the right one next time.

Good reason for buying genuine parts
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:17 AM   #98
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If you really think about it, you actually owe the sales guy big time , if you had made it, what would you be doing in your spare time now?
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:00 AM   #100
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If you really think about it, you actually owe the sales guy big time , if you had made it, what would you be doing in your spare time now?
Well its guys like you that don't really know me, and the people on this site who have been to my place know that for the last 7 years I have been building a 70 square house on my property, proberly why I ride shit box cheap bikes cause building a millon dollar property doesnt come cheap. 3/4 the way through.

Oh lifes so busy. Oh and I have a normal job as well.
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Well its guys like you that don't really know me, and the people on this site who have been to my place know that for the last 7 years I have been building a 70 square house on my property, proberly why I ride shit box cheap bikes cause building a millon dollar property doesnt come cheap. 3/4 the way through.

Oh lifes so busy. Oh and I have a normal job as well.

Is working for the company you work for classified as a normal job ? I would think not, only because I work in the same industry but for a different employer and I dont think my job is normal to most people
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Just alloy.

Look after 20 years there is not much that we haven't got right on this engine. The next engine in Kermit should be a good one. So many KLX's over the years have picked up and distroyed the cam tunnels. If you use car oil and heavy duty clutch springs thats a thing of the past. The auto cam chain tensioner used to shit its self and skip a tooth on the cam sprocket and valves used to hit pistons. We all now use custom machined manual tensioners. The Decompression mech on the exhaust cam used to fly to bits and root everything. I smashed mine out of the cam and threw it in the bin. KLX's have allways sucked fine dust through the airbox and carbie boots, so seal them up, the nikisil bores don't like fine dust or heavily load bikes, seemed to slobber oil out the breather into the airbox for recycling, Fit a cast iron (steel) liner in the barrel, Fit a magnet sump plug and your away

So what happened to Kermit on the Longest day ride reveiled.

I ended up in an argument with the local CBC bearing store yestrerday, they admitted that a less experianced salesman sold me a seal that was the wrong one, It was a $5 dollar dust seal rated at 10 psi back pressure.
The proper seal that I gave him was a Kawasaki seal made by NSK with the NSK part number on it. He asked what it was for and I told him. So he gets me a dust seal. I have been a diesel mechanic for 25 years but not a seal expert. Thats what he is for, thats his job.
It looked the same. Its like when you go to the chemist to get your Viagra script and they say " Do you want our generic brand sir" NO I want what the doctor prescribed for me. I dont want to lay in bed for 3 days with a rageing hard on. So I want the bloody seal with the same numbers on it OR a seal that is rated to the original.
So I just told the salesmen what it meant to me. $5 wrong seal, stiff shit, 6 months at the gym getting ready for the longest day, the pre running, the dream of not being there with Boris and Dan at the end. Being stranded on the side of the road at Bourke in 43 deg heat, the humiliation and embaressment that my bike never gets out there. The fact that a good mate drove 7 hours to come get me, the $2000 rebuild of an engine in a shit box bike.
But thats allright mate it was only a little fuck up just a little $5 seal, I will sell you the right one next time.
Yeh it can get frustrating.

So where you going to go from here ? with the head and engine.
Is there room for cam bearings ?

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Podge, I didn't know your a sex worker!
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Yeh it can get frustrating.

So where you going to go from here ? with the head and engine.
Is there room for cam bearings ?

Yeah, you know what I mean, thats the shit. The cylinder head is the down fall of the whole bike on the klx, That would be the fix. My Dad is an ex race car engine builder and very well respected cylinder head guy in the way of port and polishing and a gun machinest on a lathe and a mill. He could fix all my probs but we haven't talked for many years as his current wife wont let him have anything to do with his first family. He even walked past me the other day 3 times at a funeral and snobbed me off so he wouldn't get in trouble from his wife. and he has 4 great kids, no ones been to goal , we all look after ourselves and are successfull in our careers. He saw some of his grand kids the other day for the first time and they are 5yrs old and snobbed them off too. Weirdo. Must run in the family, now ya know where I get it from.

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