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Old 12-27-2012, 10:55 AM   #1
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Thinking about a new Rubi

I'm thinking about a new Rubicon. Has Jeep get their issues with the 3.6 heads sorted out? Anything else a guy needs to be aware of? I would like a 2 door with a stick.

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Old 12-27-2012, 11:01 AM   #2
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Don't all the Jeeps have a 100,000 mile power-train warranty? I wouldn't let the head "issue" stop me from getting one. This is probably more a case of the bad events get reported more than the good.

That said, if I had the finances for it, I would get exactly what you want today.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:03 AM   #3
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:25 AM   #4
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I read a bunch about them because I was thinking about getting one after this last deployment. As far as I read the head issue has been sorted. I know they had an update and than ended up putting new heads on I think the left side. EIther way I think it would be worth the risk. They are great rigs.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:22 PM   #5
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I've been looking too, but I would get a '13 just to be on the safe side.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:25 PM   #6
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:18 PM   #7
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Just bought wrangler #6 two weeks ago, a '13 unlimited Rubicon. Head issues are supposed to be sorted. My trade was my '09 rubicon 2 door. In October I did a 4500 mile trip to Moab and back, and beat it to death while I was there. I've loved having Wranglers since 1994, but I really gained a lot of appreciation for them as a result of that experience.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:52 PM   #8
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What's that gonna cost? $50K? too much $$ for me.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:12 PM   #9
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Hold out for the oil burner...


Don't bother. All industry indicators and gossip say it isn't coming for at least two more model years, maybe as many as 4 model years (if ever). Prior to the release of the gas 3.6 there was a good argument for a diesel, but not so much anymore. The gas 3.6 gets 21 mpg hwy and has plenty of power. An oil burner would need to get 28 mpg hwy just to offset the difference in fuel cost in the USA, and that doesn't account for the potential difference in maintenance costs. I am a big fan of diesels and was originally trained on them when I went to tech school, and I agree the Wrangler is an ideal platform for the power curve of a comparatively low revving diesel. But we have our heads so far up our own asses with respect to diesels here in the states there just isn't any gain in economy in a Wrangler platform.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:03 PM   #10
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I would buy a diesel in a heartbeat...but I've been saying that for 15 years. The wife and I test drove a 2012 and I was very impressed with how civilized the Wrangler has become as the last Jeep I drove was a CJ5. We also drove an FJ and I can't belive that I'm saying this but the Rubi kicked it's ass.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:06 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=ivel_86;20338350]I read a bunch about them because I was thinking about getting one after this last deployment.


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Old 12-27-2012, 06:20 PM   #12
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I would buy a diesel in a heartbeat...but I've been saying that for 15 years. The wife and I test drove a 2012 and I was very impressed with how civilized the Wrangler has become as the last Jeep I drove was a CJ5. We also drove an FJ and I can't belive that I'm saying this but the Rubi kicked it's ass.
The Rubicon also kicks it's ass in off road capability, 4wd system, and believe it or not, resale value.
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Old 12-28-2012, 08:04 AM   #13
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I would buy a diesel in a heartbeat...but I've been saying that for 15 years. The wife and I test drove a 2012 and I was very impressed with how civilized the Wrangler has become as the last Jeep I drove was a CJ5. We also drove an FJ and I can't belive that I'm saying this but the Rubi kicked it's ass.
A friend of mine just sold his FJ for a 4 door Unlimited. He says the Jeep is a MUCH better vehicle than the FJ was.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:19 AM   #14
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Don't bother. All industry indicators and gossip say it isn't coming for at least two more model years, maybe as many as 4 model years (if ever). Prior to the release of the gas 3.6 there was a good argument for a diesel, but not so much anymore. The gas 3.6 gets 21 mpg hwy and has plenty of power. An oil burner would need to get 28 mpg hwy just to offset the difference in fuel cost in the USA, and that doesn't account for the potential difference in maintenance costs. I am a big fan of diesels and was originally trained on them when I went to tech school, and I agree the Wrangler is an ideal platform for the power curve of a comparatively low revving diesel. But we have our heads so far up our own asses with respect to diesels here in the states there just isn't any gain in economy in a Wrangler platform.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:53 AM   #15
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Don't bother. All industry indicators and gossip say it isn't coming for at least two more model years, maybe as many as 4 model years (if ever). Prior to the release of the gas 3.6 there was a good argument for a diesel, but not so much anymore. The gas 3.6 gets 21 mpg hwy and has plenty of power. An oil burner would need to get 28 mpg hwy just to offset the difference in fuel cost in the USA, and that doesn't account for the potential difference in maintenance costs. I am a big fan of diesels and was originally trained on them when I went to tech school, and I agree the Wrangler is an ideal platform for the power curve of a comparatively low revving diesel. But we have our heads so far up our own asses with respect to diesels here in the states there just isn't any gain in economy in a Wrangler platform.
I posted that more to stir up shite than seriously suggest the OP actually await the arrival of a diesel Wrangler on NA shores...the Wrangler's on the short list as Mrs. Hardware's next vehicle and unless they actually have diesels on the lot when we're in the final stages of selection, we won't hold off to await the smokers.

In other words, I'll believe it when I see it.











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