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Old 12-29-2012, 04:44 PM   #1
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Pilot Road 3s on a sportbike. Feedback?

I'm really on the fence between getting some Pilot Road 3s or a conventional sport tire such as a Bridgestone S20 or similar.

I'm hoping to get some useful feedback from this very diverse(and adult...err...adolescent at times..lol) community.

Specifically I am concerned that I may end up on my head more easily on the Pilot Road 3s when being enthusiastic...

I am most concerned about the feel of the tires and steering effort.

I've read reviews on alot of these tires, and I'm aware the PR3s wear longer, etc......but I find personal experiences shared tend to be a bit better/more trustworthy than paid by advertiser magazine guys.
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Old 12-29-2012, 05:22 PM   #2
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I have them on my Bandit 650, and I really like them.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:09 PM   #3
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They don't handle like a true sport tire because they have a flatter profile. If you want the bike to effortlessly fall into turns (at the expense of stability when upright), then stick with a sport tire (pun intended). You also sacrifice grip for longevity. Personally, I tend to run a sport front with a sport touring rear and replace tires in sets even though the front isn't spanked when the rear is. It really depends on how hard you ride. Modern ST rubber is pretty dang good, but if you're running hard (near track day speeds) then you want sticky rubber IMO.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:33 PM   #4
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What bike are they going on? Trackday or knee dragging enthusiastic?
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:35 PM   #5
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This depends on what type of riding you're going to be doing.

But quite honestly, if you're literally OUTRIDING a set of Michelin Pilot Road 3's or Bridgestone BT-023's, you need to get your ass on a track and off the roads.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:39 PM   #6
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They don't handle like a true sport tire because they have a flatter profile. If you want the bike to effortlessly fall into turns (at the expense of stability when upright), then stick with a sport tire (pun intended). You also sacrifice grip for longevity. Personally, I tend to run a sport front with a sport touring rear and replace tires in sets even though the front isn't spanked when the rear is. It really depends on how hard you ride. Modern ST rubber is pretty dang good, but if you're running hard (near track day speeds) then you want sticky rubber IMO.

If I'm honest I might guess I am between track speed(below) and above legal speed(not hard on most good roads) My speed might be more if I wasnt so worried about things you dont encounter at the track..like cops....crap in the road..traffic..pedestrians..etc... Though there are a few "spots" I know of that stuff like that is of little concern....

I ride alone frequently though so I dont have a good gauge of how fast I am?!?!



In any case...Im sure the flamers are already typing away....Its cool..I wear nomex for work everyday. Seriously. Being flight crew in the military rules;)
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:41 PM   #7
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What bike are they going on? Trackday or knee dragging enthusiastic?
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I want to go to trackdays....but...its not likely in the foreseeable future because of cost and travel..

Knee dragging? I dont try to, I just figure one day my knee will touch the ground when I'm hanging off in the right position at the right pace, I dont hang off on the street very much though, unless I'm in a parking lot or at "the spot"
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:45 PM   #8
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This depends on what type of riding you're going to be doing.

But quite honestly, if you're literally OUTRIDING a set of Michelin Pilot Road 3's or Bridgestone BT-023's, you need to get your ass on a track and off the roads.
Its less about OUTRIDING and more about "feel"

Like I can ride the wife's Ninja 650 to the edge of the tires with Shinko 009s on it..but it FEELS like an act of blind faith more than something the bike wants to do. The POLAR OPPOSITE of what my GSXR did. Or my Ninja 250 on BT45s.

In other words..the Shinkos just feel "funny" all the time, I wish I could be more descriptive but I just dont have alot of tire experience.

I had ContiMotions on my last TLR and they always gripped, but had the same odd feeling when leaned over that the Shinkos have.
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Old 12-29-2012, 11:50 PM   #9
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I'm running Metzeler Z8s on my 955 Daytona and even though it's a sport touring tire i haven't had any problems with "feel" or grip on the street. Previously ran Michelin Pilot Power 2CT. Not regretting it one little bit.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:16 AM   #10
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I wouldnt be surprised if the carcass of the pilot road and pilot power are the same-just different rubber compound.I have known guys with sport bikes that ended up using them for commuting and switched to sport touring tires-no difference noticed.The motorcycle tire companies have got us brainwashed into thinking we need the latest & greatest tires.I have some of the original pilot roads on my fz1 that I got on a close out sale cheap and I like them.The pr3's look they would be good in the rain.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:40 AM   #11
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I was shocked at how much I like the PR2 better than BT-023. the mich will resist squaring off longer and be less affected. mich will last longer too

if you want excellent feed back and better turn in go with a PR2/3 or S20 type front tire.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:11 AM   #12
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This depends on what type of riding you're going to be doing.

But quite honestly, if you're literally OUTRIDING a set of Michelin Pilot Road 3's or Bridgestone BT-023's, you need to get your ass on a track and off the roads.
This!

I'm running Pilot 3's on my Blackbird and I love them. Then again my ride is set up for sport-touring and I love how well these tires handle in the rain, heavy rain. Will I purchase another set when these finally wear out? I think I will, I like them that much.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:29 AM   #13
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Running PR3's on my Tiger 1050,
It's the most popular on the Tiger 1050 site,
They have a very neutral feel, stable and warm up quickly,
They certainly aren't lacking grip, beauty of duel compounds,

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Old 12-30-2012, 05:30 AM   #14
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My two cents....

I own an RC51, a Ducati Monster, and a Suzuki V-Strom 650.

I have Pilot Power Pures on the Monster and RC51.

I used to run the first gen Pilot Roads on the Monster.

FWIW, for street riding, the Pilot Roads were fine on the Monster. While I sense the Pilot Power Pures have more ultimate grip, and turn-in quicker, for street riding, they aren't enough better for the tread life lost.

I just put the new Pilot Road 3 Trail tires on the V-Strom.

I had been running the Continental Road Attack II.

The Pilot Road 3 Trails are AMAZING!!!!!

I would definitley put the Pilot Road 3 tires on your bike and don't look back.

If you hate them, just replace them with the new Pilot Power 3 when they hit the shelves in the next few weeks.

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Old 12-30-2012, 06:44 AM   #15
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I run PR2's on my ZX-14 with no complaints. They last long, even with the motor, and haven't given me any reason not to use them. The last rear had about 4500 miles in it when I picked up a nail and changed it out, but had plenty of life left. I would guess it would have hit 8,000 easy. Front currently has 5,000 on it and looks fine.
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