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Old 11-16-2014, 08:22 AM   #1
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How slow is the GSW or GSAW? My last concern is that it is still slow.

My K1600GT is being picked-up next week after being totaled. This leaves me without a motorcycle and deciding what to purchase next.

Frankly, I have always enjoyed back country exploration. Something the K1600GT wasn't up to. In fact, on any unpaved road, it was a handful.



The R1200GSA I had was a good bike, solid and reliable.



My issue with it was that it was slow, without the power to blast past traffic as quickly as I wanted. Something the K1600GT was capable of at any speed instantly.

So, my question to those who have owned hexheads and now LC GSs, are they that much faster? Can they get around traffic in high speed passes?

No, I'm not interested in the S1000XR for a number of reasons.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:26 AM   #2
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Well RL I happened to have a k1600 and I don't think you will be disappointed. I think I can ride the GS harder than I could the K1600. I have yet to be disappointed with the power of the GSW it's fantastic from off throttle to redline.

PS sorry to hear about your loss.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:34 AM   #3
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I'm confident I can ride harder on my favorite kind of California Roads like these:


One we rode in 2012


Or this road in October.

My concern is riding along a two lane road at speed and needing to pass a line of slow traffic swiftly.

You know what I mean, the 4th gear passing of the 1600 battleship.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:38 AM   #4
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I've personally never had an issue with quick passing. Do it a lot as a matter of fact. I think the hp vs weight balances out between the two. The 16 had more power but it was so heavy. The GS is only a bit off in power and down a couple hundred pounds. It might be the lack of wind protection but the GS feels more athletic to me. It just doesn't have the top end power the K1600 just felt like it was never going to stop whereas the GS you can feel yourself getting to the end of the power and.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:39 AM   #5
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I had an 08 hexhead GS and it was far from slow. had no problem passing anything at interstate speeds. Now if you're loaded with luggage and two up, then you may wish for more power at times. My 14 GSA is light years better and more powerful than that 08. Go ride one and then make a decision.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:41 AM   #6
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I think aerodynamics comes into play at speed too. The GSA being the barn door compared to even the GS.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:44 AM   #7
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I rode a 2014 GS around Dallas a bit, but that isn't any way to get a feel for a motorcycle.

My big mistake with the old GSA was probably the Micatech cases as they allowed me to carry too much crap and were slab sided.



The K1600GT taught me to pack a lot lighter, and I never have a passenger or top case.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:50 AM   #8
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If speed is the need wait a little while an test ride the new 1000xr... 150 hp but with a chain... With that said I have 6000 miles on a 2014 gsa and a world of difference from the oil cooled 1200 motors.. Very happy with mine and motor is incredible... Just bring your checkbook if taking one for a test ride!
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:57 AM   #9
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Every decision requires compromise. The S1000XR requires compromises which take it in a different direction. The GSW is probably my best choice as cross country rides are being replaced with a trailer or hitch carrier.

Svelte and capable. Most rides will be without cases.

If I could get black spoked wheels.......
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:01 AM   #10
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Most bikes have a power to weight ratio superior to the fastest super cars made .Not sure how aggressive a rider you are to worry about passing power but I've had both a Camhead and a GSA Lc and the new bike is very noticeably quicker. It will smoke just about everything on the road except sport bikes. The software interrupts wheelies on a regular basis.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:12 AM   #11
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My K1600GT is being picked-up next week after being totaled. ...
My issue with it was that it [R1200GSA] was slow, without the power to blast past traffic as quickly as I wanted.
Unless these two facts are totally unrelated, you might want to re-evaluate your riding style and needs.
My GSW is plenty fast - faster than I can determine.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:18 AM   #12
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Unless these two facts are totally unrelated, you might want to re-evaluate your riding style and needs.
Unrelated, but certainly a huge reevaluation is underway.

The crash was a low side, plain and simple. Odds are that the road went from cambered to off-cambered quickly, thus catching some hard parts. My first injury on the street in 44 years of riding.

The reevaluation has offered the desire for returning to my dirt roots and backcountry exploration.

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Old 11-16-2014, 09:19 AM   #13
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Can still scare myself passing...

I sold my 150-HP 2010 Ducati Multistrada 1200S because---in large part---I couldn't seem to control myself (at age 66!) and more than once scared myself during ill-advised passing maneuvers on narrow mountain roads (that MTS12 was SO DARNED GOOD AT PASSING)... No doubt about it, just a matter of time before I killed myself.

...so I got a 125-HP 2013 GSW. Guess what, I still scare myself attempting (and completing) ill-advised passing maneuvers

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Old 11-16-2014, 09:23 AM   #14
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Guess what, I still scare myself attempting (and completing) ill-advised passing maneuvers
There are certainly different motivations for motorcycle riding. Odds are we share similar motives for our riding.

I can't tell you the number of Harley parades there are hogging two lane roads. Be it necessity, or joy, or even bliss, but passing the whole parade in one jump is satisfying.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:30 AM   #15
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I don't get it.
What's with all these posts lately where people just want to pick a fight?

Go test ride the damn bike and see if it's too slow for you, it really is just that simple, no matter what anybody says, it's subjective.
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