my winter build - Page 7

zipper421 · 02-02-2013, 03:28 AM

thanks i was wondering if it was heavy enough

kshansen · 02-02-2013, 08:18 AM

Zipper,

I'm probably way off but I was looking at the rocker arrangement and was wondering if moving the lower mount for the front adjuster tube towards the left so t he upper end of the adjuster was on the left of the rocker would result in more balanced load on the pivot bearing? This would also position the lower mount closer to the main frame tube so there would be less flex in the mount.

I'd post pictures of the first stages of my project but I'd be embarrassed to see them next to your work.

Ken

davebig · 02-02-2013, 02:32 PM

Mines a big chair that could haul allot of stuff, your will probably be lighter and maybe could do with a smaller swaybar setup, this really works though and one can crank preload into the bar and it acts like a spring making the suspension much stiffer.

End of bar sidecar not mounted.

Final drive side

Sidecar swing arm side.

Above sidecar swing arm.
You've got allot to do this winter, building a body and making this all work,good luck.DB

zipper421 · 02-02-2013, 02:41 PM

thanks Dave
how do you adjust the preload

davebig · 02-02-2013, 03:21 PM

Simple and it gets stiff very fast disconnect one end of sway bar (take aluminum arm splined onto bar off) jack up either the bike or the chair reconnect sway bar, I settled on neutral but will try raising chair side just a little next year.DB

zipper421 · 02-09-2013, 03:05 PM

its starting to come together

whatcha think

MILLENNIUM FALCON · 02-09-2013, 03:46 PM

I think I like it! Looks like you got a new shock... what is it?

davebig · 02-09-2013, 03:53 PM

Looks wide what's the track now ? Since its a giant Ural will the body be extra wide ? Your already the most accomplished home builder on the site.Don't get snowed into the garage.DB

zipper421 · 02-09-2013, 06:06 PM

spare harley shock not sure which one im running yet
the track is at 56 center to center what is yours

davebig · 02-09-2013, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zipper421

spare harley shock not sure which one im running yet
the track is at 56 center to center what is yours

I'm not Claude but mines only 52" c-c, your wheel base is only a about 58.5 I would be asking someone with more experience what track should be.DB

zipper421 · 02-09-2013, 07:35 PM

i was just wondering what it was 56 is fine
i have talked to claude
was just wondering

davebig · 02-09-2013, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zipper421

i was just wondering what it was 56 is fine
i have talked to claude
was just wondering

Ok

Bobmws · 02-10-2013, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davebig

Simple and it gets stiff very fast disconnect one end of sway bar (take aluminum arm splined onto bar off) jack up either the bike or the chair reconnect sway bar, I settled on neutral but will try raising chair side just a little next year.DB

I have a question on the swaybar, perhaps better directed to Claude.
Are the arm lengths equal, and the attachment points equidistant from the axle center on each wheel, or can the preload be adjusted to create a 'balance' in the actual travel?
Additionally, will camber adjustment affect the swaybar settings?

davebig · 02-10-2013, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobmws

I have a question on the swaybar, perhaps better directed to Claude.
Are the arm lengths equal, and the attachment points equidistant from the axle center on each wheel, or can the preload be adjusted to create a 'balance' in the actual travel?
Additionally, will camber adjustment affect the swaybar settings?

Yes Claude has the real handle, but arms are equal length, they are attached buy multiple hiem joints so I don't believe they affect camber.Since you have a Hannigan chair I don't believe theirs has equal length arms, I don't know as mine is equal length to wheel centerlines, Good reading here http://www.hpsidecar.com/sidecararti...rarticles.html DB

zipper421 · 02-10-2013, 08:54 AM

i have drawn up a body but im not sure what im doing yet
i started with a 24 inch wide car
im down to 22 inches
the length is stock ural 70 something

02-02-2013, 03:28 AM	#91
zipper421 ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Location: space Oddometer: 162	thanks thanks i was wondering if it was heavy enough __________________ I love it when they say, "Where did you buy that ?"

02-02-2013, 02:32 PM	#93
davebig Another Angry Hun ! Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Oddometer: 654	Plagurist are us Mines a big chair that could haul allot of stuff, your will probably be lighter and maybe could do with a smaller swaybar setup, this really works though and one can crank preload into the bar and it acts like a spring making the suspension much stiffer. End of bar sidecar not mounted. Final drive side Sidecar swing arm side. Above sidecar swing arm. You've got allot to do this winter, building a body and making this all work,good luck.DB __________________ Patience: A minor form of despair disguised as a virture. Ambrose Bierce

02-02-2013, 02:41 PM	#94
zipper421 ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Location: space Oddometer: 162	preload thanks Dave how do you adjust the preload __________________ I love it when they say, "Where did you buy that ?"

02-02-2013, 03:21 PM	#95
davebig Another Angry Hun ! Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Oddometer: 654	preload Simple and it gets stiff very fast disconnect one end of sway bar (take aluminum arm splined onto bar off) jack up either the bike or the chair reconnect sway bar, I settled on neutral but will try raising chair side just a little next year.DB __________________ Patience: A minor form of despair disguised as a virture. Ambrose Bierce

02-09-2013, 03:05 PM	#96
zipper421 ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Location: space Oddometer: 162	well its starting to come together whatcha think __________________ I love it when they say, "Where did you buy that ?"

02-02-2013, 08:18 AM	#92
kshansen kshansen Joined: Jan 2012 Location: Central NY Oddometer: 66	Zipper, I'm probably way off but I was looking at the rocker arrangement and was wondering if moving the lower mount for the front adjuster tube towards the left so t he upper end of the adjuster was on the left of the rocker would result in more balanced load on the pivot bearing? This would also position the lower mount closer to the main frame tube so there would be less flex in the mount. I'd post pictures of the first stages of my project but I'd be embarrassed to see them next to your work. Ken

02-09-2013, 03:46 PM	#97
MILLENNIUM FALCON Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2011 Oddometer: 191	I think I like it! Looks like you got a new shock... what is it?

02-09-2013, 03:53 PM	#98
davebig Another Angry Hun ! Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Oddometer: 654	You keep busy Looks wide what's the track now ? Since its a giant Ural will the body be extra wide ? Your already the most accomplished home builder on the site.Don't get snowed into the garage.DB __________________ Patience: A minor form of despair disguised as a virture. Ambrose Bierce

02-09-2013, 06:06 PM	#99
zipper421 ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Location: space Oddometer: 162	build spare harley shock not sure which one im running yet the track is at 56 center to center what is yours __________________ I love it when they say, "Where did you buy that ?"

02-09-2013, 07:35 PM	#101
zipper421 ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Location: space Oddometer: 162	track i was just wondering what it was 56 is fine i have talked to claude was just wondering __________________ I love it when they say, "Where did you buy that ?"

02-10-2013, 08:54 AM	#105
zipper421 ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Location: space Oddometer: 162	Dave i have drawn up a body but im not sure what im doing yet i started with a 24 inch wide car im down to 22 inches the length is stock ural 70 something __________________ I love it when they say, "Where did you buy that ?"

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