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Old 01-01-2013, 12:06 PM   #16
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Bike is out of warranty but this was one of the few times I bought an extended warranty.
The wheel not even spin with the bike running in neutral on the center stand.
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:06 PM   #17
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Front u joint on a gsa 35000 is all you get. To much angle. My buddy's 08 gsa just went south on a ride. He waited to long and had to also replace the swingarm. You can have serviceable u joints put in for 350$. The gsa front u joint just has to much angle. But it does look cool.
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:09 PM   #18
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Front u joint on a gsa 35000 is all you get. .
Nah. Source of info?
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:15 PM   #19
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Ask around or do a search or just wait till your wheel locks up. BMW should put it in the manual.
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:55 PM   #20
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Strongly suggest you eliminate other likely suspects first. In this case remove the brake caliper and see if there is any difference to the drag.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:07 PM   #21
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Front u joint on a gsa 35000 is all you get.
I'd better not let my GSA read this, it's 80k miles overdue for a failure. I just love reading BS posts like this.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:12 PM   #22
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:10 PM   #23
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Front u joint on a gsa 35000 is all you get. To much angle. My buddy's 08 gsa just went south on a ride. He waited to long and had to also replace the swingarm. You can have serviceable u joints put in for 350$. The gsa front u joint just has to much angle. But it does look cool.

Maybe on your buddy's bike, but there are thousands of 50K mile plus GSAs with a fullky functioning driveshaft.

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Old 01-01-2013, 06:24 PM   #24
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Might be but I would not buy one. Or ride one any distance. Without pulling the driveshaft for a look.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:02 PM   #25
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Might be but I would not buy one. Or ride one any distance. Without pulling the driveshaft for a look.
I have had 2 R1200s that went well past your arbitrary limit with no issues, and a third that now has 120K miles, still original driveshaft.

Also, I personally have worked on dozens of R1200 bikes well in excess of 35K miles with no driveshaft issues.

Believe what you like, but a sample of one is not a good indicator of an issue.

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Old 01-02-2013, 04:00 AM   #26
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I have had 2 R1200s that went well past your arbitrary limit with no issues, and a third that now has 120K miles, still original driveshaft.

Also, I personally have worked on dozens of R1200 bikes well in excess of 35K miles with no driveshaft issues.

Believe what you like, but a sample of one is not a good indicator of an issue.

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True, but there have also been plenty which have grenaded at roughly the 50K mile point. I've pretty much talked myself out of an R1200GS because of it.

It's simply the latest in a long list of professional embarrassments for the BMW engineering community.

Don't get me wrong. I understand your point. It's the dichotomy of BMW ownership. You either get a good one or a bad one. A good one will go hundreds of thousands of miles with little or no trouble. A bad one will cost you multi-thousands of dollars in major repairs every 30,000-50,000 miles. They guys with bad ones can't believe people pay actual money for these pieces of crap. The guys with good ones can't understand what all the fuss is about.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:11 AM   #27
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True, but there have also been plenty which have grenaded at roughly the 50K mile point. I've pretty much talked myself out of an R1200GS because of it.

It's simply the latest in a long list of professional embarrassments for the BMW engineering community.

Don't get me wrong. I understand your point. It's the dichotomy of BMW ownership. You either get a good one or a bad one. A good one will go hundreds of thousands of miles with little or no trouble. A bad one will cost you multi-thousands of dollars in major repairs every 30,000-50,000 miles. They guys with bad ones can't believe people pay actual money for these pieces of crap. The guys with good ones can't understand what all the fuss is about.
So how much does it cost to replace the chain and sprockets every 2-3000 miles?
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:16 AM   #28
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I do not consider that an appropriate reply. Obviously there are some issues with quality control on the front U joint. It may not be the U joint. It could be installation or machine of the yoke for example, this is just a guess.

This is consistent with BMW for the last 20 years.

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Old 01-02-2013, 07:44 AM   #29
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So how much does it cost to replace the chain and sprockets every 2-3000 miles?
2-3000 miles? You need to buy brand name parts. Part of the issue is unexpected failure leaving you stranded. It's really easy to check the condition of a chain and the sprockets before you leave on a trip and address any issues. It's not too difficult to remove the drive shaft and inspect it so maybe that should be part of preparation for any ride where you don't want the adventure to include a layover waiting for parts.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:21 AM   #30
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So how much does it cost to replace the chain and sprockets every 2-3000 miles?
It costs me about $150 every 20,000 miles. And I can schedule it so I know it's good. And I can choose from a vast array of sprockets to change my drive ratio if I desire. And it's light. And I don't lose any appreciable horsepower through the drive system. And, and, and ...

In theory there are advantages to a shaft drive. That being said, any effort to favorably compare the BMW shaft drive system to a standard chain drive system is, well, laughable. Sorry.

And I'm not even a BMW hater. I love Beemers. I have almost 300K miles on BMWs. Stuff like this drives me nuts though. It's really turned me of the brand.
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