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Old 01-08-2013, 12:19 AM   #3376
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Bluebull, what is latest Don could start?
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Its not the latest he can start, he cannot pitch up at his start time more than 30 minutes late (if the rule book remains the same) on pain of disqualification.

Also, if he gets in too late, (an hour or two before the start) they may choose not to let him continue.You saw what happened to Ignacio Chivite yesterday morning.

To be honest his bikes condition might be too grim as well...but miracles do happen.
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He has to get into the bivouac before the first bike leaves in the morning, then he has to looby to be allowed to continue. Then he has to pretty much leave the bivouac on or near his departure time (last bike out). Then he has to make it to the start of the Special on time. If he's too late to the start of the Special (like two hours or more), he can be DQ at that point.
THIS is where the snowball turns into an avalanche...

Even if you make it to the bivvy (and it sounds like a war story Don is going through) AND you make all the regulatory times and cut offs as neil and Scott rightly refer to... even THEN he has to start (one tough helluva) DAY FOUR extremely late, with a less than optimal bike in a state of dissrepair (much less limited service) a sore body and next to zero sleep/rest.

Day four is a hard ask in any case... with this as a starting point...?

But as Bluebull wrote... miracles do happen (he still rode the thing in? wow! ).

This is where the mystic powers of the global f5orce that is the F% slow clap have done wonders in the past... so if you're feeling at all rythmic this mornin'...


C'mon Don
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:22 AM   #3377
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:23 AM   #3378
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finally caught up this morning... helps that my directors aren't in....

out of the bivouac early but i have a feeling a i missed a checkpoint or two in there somewhere.... i would like to say that my f5 gps would not unlock and that's my excuse...

sounds like a tough dayfor some yesterday...
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:26 AM   #3379
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finally caught up this morning... helps that my directors aren't in....

out of the bivouac early but i have a feeling a i missed a checkpoint or two in there somewhere.... i would like to say that my f5 gps would not unlock and that's my excuse...

sounds like a tough dayfor some yesterday...
Just as well I am a director then
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:26 AM   #3380
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We don't use the "retarded" word in here...

we refer to those F5er's with challenges in life ass those less GIFted...

They're still working BTW...
the retarded ones ride a special chariot
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:28 AM   #3381
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:30 AM   #3382
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Good morning all, thanks for fillng up only 20 odd pages since last night

Some interesting points made in the meantime:

1. Honda fuel pumps. IIRC this was discussed in the Honda thread upon the unveiling of the bike, many questioned the fuel pump position in the left hand side of the skid plate... apprentry not very wise thinking

2. The shorter stage / sprint format of the New® Improved Dakar: Seems to favour more risk taking, balls out riding, definitely lost some of it's endurance character. Best time for yesterdays' Special: 2 hours 37 minutes. That's less time of racing than an Enduro race. WTF? Which brings me to this excellent post:

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I think you are right on with those comments,ASO are a business,they run other major sporting events such as Tour de France,and with that event,each town bids to pay the highest,then ASO arrange to start or finish there each day,it very much a franchise.

There are many riders here in Europe who go on the smaller rallies in North Africa,such as Tuareg,Race Africa,Heroes Legend purely for the fact that they do not stay in separate areas,but have 1 bivouac,where all eat & sleep together,and share the comaradary of all other competitors,bike,quad,car,truck,and mix with the organisers.

Yes,the sleeping arrangements can be "interesting",food "variable" and toilet/washing facilities "sparse",but from my own experiences,the friendships formed from these amateur events,where you are mixing with like-minded individuals,is probably more than you would expect to get from larger events.

They appeal to the original TS Dakar philosophy of getting out there and trying to do something out of your comfort zone,both as a rider and culturally.When you arrive in some of these North African countries,it can be a shock,but it is best to respect their beliefs and attitudes,it is their land,but enjoy the freedom of the areas you travel through,ride within your abilities,because you generally have to fix any damage yourself,without the luxury of back-up,and there is nothing better than riding with a group of friends with the same outlook.

I, for one,hope that the smaller rallies and raids in North Africa continue,because getting the experience of riding in these remote areas will become more difficult as the years progress.
Having followed the Africa Eco Race as closely as possible - after Patsy Quick and I had a similar conversation back in Serres- I think these are the kind of events that keep the spirit of Mr. Sabine alive, at least for privateers like me who will never have a team structure / factory support. I have nothing against the Dakar, it is an awe-inspiring event which raises the profile of Rallying. As I am also in awe of anyone that tackles it, let alone finishes it... But the 100.000 required could cover 6 or 7 races in North Africa (or the Safari) for a regular guy who just loves to ride and compete in amazing landscapes.

Something to discuss after the race has finished I think

Now, on with the show!
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:33 AM   #3383
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Talking about snowball effect, I feel like Don, catching up after so many pages and then the fight is yet to begin again.

Hello y'all.

Just hate it when our headoffice calls when i am right in the middle of something important. !!!!!
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:35 AM   #3384
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Whew!

Clif Notes caught up, MOST of the F5irehose between meetings, no lunch catchup available, and viewed both France 4 and Eurosport Highlights torrents over dinner, awesome footage! Wife rolls her eyes, but after years of this madness, has mostly come to accept it Brushing up on my French in the France 4 broadcasts.

I'm barely staying ahead of the F5sweeper truck.

Tomorrows pics and vids should be epic! "they will quail" over the steep dunes!
You do know that headmaster f5lood is know to have "f5 pop quizzes" occassionally to catch f5-ing thread skimmers out... don't you?!

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Mornin'

Only 23 pages, one torrent and Pyn on RallyRaidio to catch up this morning. Walk in the park
f5 sweeper truck all caught up, the dregs tossed into "Cliffnotes" bin and all systems go as we look forward to the departure from the bivouac for DAY 4: Nazca - Arequipa...

As the Scottish mens gymnastics team are known to say;

"Aye... tis gonna be a wee ball tearer...!"

Buckle up you kilts laddies... there will be some tired Dakar soldiers today...
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:36 AM   #3385
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So catching up and time to type my comments of the lasst 54 odd pages.

Campervans with strip poles. Me like

Pale aussie male strippers? hairy butt and all

Flat bill caps for dorks, both in Golf and Motorsport.

Retard Chariots or vehicles for the less gifted as mentioned by TSC

Shoestring.

Havent even had time to catch up on James and Seb.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:36 AM   #3386
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Got lost in the dunes and finally made it to the stage finish this afternoon
Ready to go again but not hopeful of completing the course tonight.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:37 AM   #3387
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I'm still trying to catch up from yesterday, I have no phone coverage at my work site and I had to go out all night last night...

So can I cut and run or do I have to go back and read the past two days posts?

You even had to ask...?
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:41 AM   #3388
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:43 AM   #3389
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THIS is where the snowball turns into an avalanche...

Even if you make it to the bivvy (and it sounds like a war story Don is going through) AND you make all the regulatory times and cut offs as neil and Scott rightly refer to... even THEN he has to start (one tough helluva) DAY FOUR extremely late, with a less than optimal bike in a state of dissrepair (much less limited service) a sore body and next to zero sleep/rest.

Day four is a hard ask in any case... with this as a starting point...?
And not only that, straight in to a 429km special followed by a 289 km liason, the bike start on the special at 05.45 am local time! - now if he manages that there a part waiting with Sly Stone and Jason Statham (Troy SC ) in The Expendables 3
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:48 AM   #3390
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And not only that, straight in to a 429km special followed by a 289 km liason, the bike start on the special at 05.45 am local time! - now if he manages that there a part waiting with Sly Stone and Jason Statham (Troy SC ) in The Expendables 3
Other way round today, 289 Special straight out of the bivvy, followed by 429 Liaison

go Don!

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