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Old 01-08-2013, 01:33 AM   #3421
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What we are referring to (assuming... it HAS happened before in recent years) that at some point (within the 24 hours after all the footage is collected sifted through) on occassions the FIA jury get a glimpse of something (most of the top 10 vehicles have lipstick cameras in them somewhere on many/most of the stages) that does not quite "gel" with the story lodged by a plaintiff...

That's all I'm sayin'...
Nicely put there Troy
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:35 AM   #3422
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Got a newbie question. Is there a reason for some of the cars not turning on their warning systems when coming up behind another vehicle esp a bike.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:37 AM   #3423
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Watch the Robbie vid - he explains it quite simply
yup i did... and he does... he obviously hasn't been taking the same diplomacy lessons as TSC!!
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:39 AM   #3424
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yup i did... and he does... he obviously hasn't been taking the same diplomacy lessons as TSC!!
He didn't quite use the C word though - either one of them!

Both end in a T but one has four letters and one five
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:39 AM   #3425
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ivan jakes from slovakia had a good day today. very talented rider who should work his way up in the standings if his bike holds up.
The bike will hold up, I done his engines and suspension :) We had a little Slovakian / Norwegian cooperation :)
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:40 AM   #3426
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He didn't quite use the C word though - either one of them!
you could tell he was thinking both of them tho!
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:45 AM   #3427
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Today's stage SS4: Nazca->Arequipa





I'm seeing 8 waypoints and probably 2 checkpoints, although they aren't listed (yet) on the manual tracker list.

With the refuel point aka HondaHeaven at KM173, we can expect a 15 minute neutralization stop.

Early start for the bikes today at 0545 local. It's now , so they're off in an hour.

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Mischa's tracker
Mischa's monitor
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Dakar.com live tracker
Dakar.com manual tracker and CP list.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:45 AM   #3428
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End of the RALLY for Don!!

Just had a call from Paul Green … and …unfortunately it is the end of the rally for Don. The ASO medical car has picked Don up. Apparently he is physically ok. His bike sustained a lot of damage when he was hit by the truck, but he managed to piece it together and inch towards the end of the special. However, at approx. 4 kms from the end of the special he had insurmountable mechanical problems and was not able to get the bike running. Don is headed back to the biouvac with ASO at this moment. Can’t wait to talk to him to make sure he
is ok. Our last conversation was via someones satellite phone at about 5:20 pm(our time)- 12 kms from the end of the section and he was not in such good shape. He was having trouble talking and wasn’t making much sense. I was not sure at that point what was going to happen. He had been out on the course for close to 12 hours. He had no way of contacting anyone from his team and I’m sure mine was the only number he could remember to call on the sat phone.

Luckily, after trying to get ahold of Llel, Simon or Paul, I was able to contact Simon Pavey’s wife Linley who in turn got ahold of Simon and Paul. Simon and Paul went to ASO. ASO called Paris. Paris called Don on his iritrack. By this time it was dark, Don had no navigation, no lights and the bike was broken and buried.
He told ASO he was continuing on and did not need assistance. He managed to struggle to the 4km mark, but the bike just quit and he could not get it going. That is all I know at this point. I am sure Don is very disappointed!

Will keep you posted!

Thank you to all for your posts and words of encouragement to Don. They were very much appreciated.

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Old 01-08-2013, 01:48 AM   #3429
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Gutted for Don, the poor guy can't catch a break in Dakar.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:48 AM   #3430
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Great roundup / intro Flood, unfortunately the manual tracking on the Dakar site has no CP intermediate links

typical ASO,
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:50 AM   #3431
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Can anyone tell me why Andrew Scott is showing in 6th. Did I miss something?
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:55 AM   #3432
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Official statement from ASO

The race officials for the car category,After having examined the report made by the Race Director,After discussions with the Race Director,After discussions with competitor number 303,After discussions with technical service provider ERTF,Have taken the following decision:Cancelation of the decision taken previously by the Race Management, on the following basis:The Race Management took its decision on 6th January 2013 further to a claim from competitor 303 on the basis of partial technical analysis proving that the main GPS experienced malfunctions.Comprehensive and more detailed analysis, based on the final report made by ERTF, in fact revealed that the second GPS was functioning correctly.

Someone mentioned it will apply to Nasser as well?
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:55 AM   #3433
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oh cool. I'll try but still a damn shame we in the north are locked out of watching good feed from the UK, Europe, Australia, etc.

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Old 01-08-2013, 02:14 AM   #3434
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I guess like all things the Dakar is changing, even though there are many men and the ASO who claim it is not. Im afraid with the shorter stages over more days for a shorter total distance is going to do that. People are getting soft, what happened to that camelman image that I used to see riding accross Mauritania? How will we ever get back to the way it was? I think if we were honest with ourselves, it will never be the same again. Its going to get more and more technical and more and more flash as time marches on. Where else can they take the Dakar? To Mongolia maybe? Where else apart from Africa? And if its anywhere else, will they get the same exuberant, money waving crowds? Not it wont.

Thats why the Dakar cannot leave South America. Its about big business, and big names like Volkswagen these days. Who is seen to be doing it. Sabine did not envision the top 25 guys walking out each morning in their clean gleaming riding suits every day did he? Newly refreshed riders climbing out from under their down duvets in their air conditioned campers, perfect looking bikes, while only a handful of pitiful, dirty malle moto guys continue with their old school methods, situated close to the toilets. I dunno about you guys but as much as I love the Dakar, the race, the road books, the fact that it remains brutal, its not the same Dakar I signed up for buts its all we got. Not that this by any means takes anything away from the guys battling their asses off to get to the end of each day. Look at Don Hatton, Ignacio Chivite - And Luis for example. These guys are the Dakar and I salute them....But if we were brutally honest with ourselves, the rest of it has become a bit of a rich boys game hasn't it?

The question we need to ask ourselves is what next? As things change something new evolves right? Where will the Dakar be in 10 years time?

In my view, Dakar isn't growing or evolving in the strict sense.
It's pampering to the sponsors, business and lowest common denominator in the audience.
Sadly, this is what all of us in the Western world except as normal and as a only way a world can work.
What's next? More of the same ... Morphing into a perfect consumer product.



Good day all.

Bikes are hitting the liaison in about 30 minutes and when those dune decants come I'm shutting my eyes.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:16 AM   #3435
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f5 rampant speculation dept: Moto tactix DAY 4 - Nazca -Arequipa

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Today's stage SS4: Nazca->Arequipa





I'm seeing 8 waypoints and probably 2 checkpoints, although they aren't listed (yet) on the manual tracker list.

With the refuel point aka HondaHeaven at KM173, we can expect a 15 minute neutralization stop.

Early start for the bikes today at 0545 local. It's now , so they're off in an hour.

Today's tracker links:

Mischa's tracker
Mischa's monitor
(Please conserve bandwidth on the above links, close tabs when not in use, easy on the F5ing!)

Dakar.com live tracker
Dakar.com manual tracker and CP list.
Okay, thanks for the graphics f5lood was just looking for them...

how do the top ten lay up tactic's today?

Chaleco leads out today, with Despres two spots back in Pos 3., but holding @ 3 min lead o/a to the Chilebean who is 2nd currently. If Despres puts a bead on Lopez in the opening 19 to 40 kms (some tough dunes)... he can track the two wheel tracks ahead, then he picks up effectively 7 minute buffer total on Chaleco and can control him from behind.

Keep an eye out you f5 WP hunters at the 39 km mark... where the moto course diverts from the auto route (remember Coma's boo boo out front in argentina a couple years back, where the course did similar... went wrong way for a bit and handed CDP the upper glove? )

There could be a degree of confusion in the 39 to 51 km sector, where it's MOTO only route (technical?) and looks like they drop off the face of the planet to rejoin the course proper!

Pål Anders Ovenwoolmittens is in third spot overall and only 5 minutes off CDP outright lead. With a start pos of 10, today he is the last of the two minute start gap riders, and if he manages his day well, is optimally placed to pick off five or six riders, which will translate to another top five stage result and strengthen his title bid. he like tough days as well... as his Swedish neighbours would say; "en seg jävel...!"

Similarly Oliver growing Pains in 4th overall on the Yamaha... has a good opportunity today to stamp his name on something, along with yamaha colleagues Casteau and Verhoven (although probably a little tender after yesterdays boulder bowling session). I Yamaha make a move today, THEY could be the ones to take it to KTM and keep the pressure on thru to rest day for remainder of week one...

Viladoms also - the hopes of husqvarna lie with their "best customer" (in 8th general classification currently 9 minutes off Cyrils lead) and Botturi in 11th only two minutes further back in overall terms.

After the intitial pummeling in the first 80 km's... things settle down (relatively speaking) from @ the 110 km mark through to CP/fuel at 233 km...

Then 12 km after the restart (fuel zones are a fifteen minute nutralization where riders only can fuel/re-water themselves... no outside service) is a BIG F5-ing uphill!!!

Then the ASS at 288 km... who will have theirs handed to them today...?

Tune in to f5 broadcasting and f5ind the f5¤% out...!
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