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Old 01-09-2013, 05:49 AM   #4696
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Behind the Dakar - Team HRC, day four

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Old 01-09-2013, 05:50 AM   #4697
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:51 AM   #4698
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If I knew where every rider was at all times during the event, it does make me wonder if the F5 experience would be the same? I enjoy scrambling around trying to figure out the standings. All in all I would say the F5 team does a hell of a job following both the front and back runners of Dakar.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:52 AM   #4699
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IIRC, stage should go off in about 40 min for the bikes. Cars may be on stage now.


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did we get/hear the reasoning behind the different routes for cars and bikes today?
In the past, they've had big problems with the cars overrunning the bikes with few safe places to pass on the narrower tracks. The past few editions, there have been a some split stages (which also let them put in more technical terrain for the bikes, playing in to the 450 argument).
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:53 AM   #4700
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This is what blows my mind about both Dorna and ASO. Viral youtube videos do nothing but feed the fans and enhance their brands, yet they yank them down at the first instance.
If I were a major sponsor, I'd be on the phone screaming at Etienne/Carmelo every time they did it. Only way they're gonna get the message.

In MotoGP, they just announced that Monster is the title sponsor for the Yamaha Factory Team. There's a brand who's embraced the internet, and it has paid off in spades. Really helped them bring their product to the world. I wonder if they'll be the catalyst there for change? I hope so.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:59 AM   #4701
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This is what blows my mind about both Dorna and ASO. Viral youtube videos do nothing but feed the fans and enhance their brands, yet they yank them down at the first instance.
It is all about exclusive contracts with broadcasters... And protecting them... Lame as lame can be from a disadvantaged fan perspective.

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Old 01-09-2013, 06:01 AM   #4702
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:03 AM   #4703
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long slow handclap - first bike off 08.30 so 50 mins?
damn..... my arms are getting tired.... luckily i have a moustachioed south american to do my slow claps for me...
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:05 AM   #4704
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Mornin'

Been playing catchup for 6 hours, had to attend some meetings. Almost left behind, but now I'm back.

Anyone have yesterdays Eurosports highlights to share? I cant find a torrent for them..

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Old 01-09-2013, 06:06 AM   #4705
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Mornin f5ers!!

The way I read it cars left the bivvy at around 7 they have a big transit before there SS bikes scheduled to roll at 8:30

2 totally different routes today, I think bikes are only 136km it appears backwards on ASO site??

If so no worries about HRC fuel again today

Showing first car start of there SS at 11:30
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:08 AM   #4706
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:11 AM   #4707
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If I knew where every rider was at all times during the event, it does make me wonder if the F5 experience would be the same? I enjoy scrambling around trying to figure out the standings. All in all I would say the F5 team does a hell of a job following both the front and back runners of Dakar.

Nooo - I prefer to be inside the sports stadium watching, not locked outside listenting to the noise
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:13 AM   #4708
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dakar 2013 in one minute by speedbrain

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Old 01-09-2013, 06:14 AM   #4709
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Quintanilla 183 has a much better starting spot today, off 47th, Have to see if the speed he showed the first few stages before his wheel problem can help him move up some today
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:18 AM   #4710
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I agree that the new media is contributing but it is only contributing from the following:
1. Much more crowds to inform, attracting local media to report to the crowds.
2. Factory Teams and Teams put the effort in posting media to get you more exposed to their sponsors/Brand.
3. Loads more access roads next to the track so much easier for freelance photographers/videographers to reach vantage points and take awesome videos, same applies to the chopper as it is shorter flight distance to the stages from the Biv compare to Africa.
4. Biv has internet and some free hands to put content on social.

In the end we get loads more Video, Photos and social media noise.
Add to that eforts to have trackers and feeds from ASO that enable you to know (sort of) what is going on with Chelco in real time'ish.
So it is not accurate for statistical purposes but it does give you a frame work to guesstimate what is going on and start looking around to see in other sources what happened to your rider/s

If the race stayed in africa we would have gotten more information from the Biv/Teams but the crowds and the local media would not be the same and the access to the Vid/Pho/Chopper would have been harder as distances were hectic.

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Only 7 pages to catch up on this morning. Thank goodness ASO give a late start reprieve after the longest stage.





Interesting perspectives on spectating the event.

I think for the true junkies among us, the nature of the information available is a bit of a tease and allows us to "participate" by speculating, and make some of our own judgments and guesses about what is happening, and with the forums, we get to share the experience of it with like minded friends.

I think it's a detriment for the casual to moderate fan, though.

That being said, really none of the advancements we've seen have come from ASO, they're all due to social media (ADV included), I think Kamanya is right on in that respect.

At least get the timing pages to work consistently.





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