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Old 01-09-2013, 12:53 PM   #5341
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Without the dunes it should be ok, the altitude section is what, 209 km so that's about 30 km in reserve from zip, altitude for dunes? Should be about ok?
Actually the bikes should run leaner at altitude (ie use less fuel), although its a marginal situation when you are climbing? Ive noticed on my big big when riding over the andes my consumption is high going up and almost non existant coming down.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:54 PM   #5342
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Long day tomorrow, very early start, and someone just tweeted that everyone in the circus is gonna lose 2 hours of sleep as well due to the time difference

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Showing bikes out a 4:30 local time I assume, The transit is first right?
Thought it was only 1 hr from Peru
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:55 PM   #5343
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Actually the bikes should run leaner at altitude (ie use less fuel), although its a marginal situation when you are climbing? Ive noticed on my big big when riding over the andes my consumption is high going up and almost non existant coming down.
Altitude or you easy on throttle on way down
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:56 PM   #5344
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Showing bikes out a 4:30 local time I assume, The transit is first right?
Thought it was only 1 hr from Peru
yes, 4:30 start on Liaison, then the Special. Peru to Chile is 2 hours difference. Don't ask me why though
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:57 PM   #5345
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I still think its the lack of Coma trying to make 3-5 minutes a day that has Cyril adopting a different, calmer strategy. Coma's breakaway are maybe the only thing that can chip away at Cyril. When Coma does that, well, CD's got no choice but to keep him within striking distance. Then you see them both begin to pull away from the pack.

Still I think its in the best interest of CD to surf the wave, and when eveyone else begins to shed parts all over the sand all he has to do is stay fresh at 85%.

I guess CD thinks he has a margin of at least 20 mins that he can lose at any time, and be able to get it back. I wouldnt worry unless he's at least that far back.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:57 PM   #5346
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I'm am going to assume they still consider the neutralized section part of the SS, So it's no, only from other competitors still in the race

By the Driver of a car, a bike or a truck officially entered in and still in the race.
By an assistance category vehicle, after the closure of the control at the end of the Selective Section and after having informed the Organiser

can't find anything talking about neutralized
This is correct, the neutralized section is part of the special stage, just un-timed so yes, the same regulations apply. No fuel from external sources.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:58 PM   #5347
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Took a long time, but caught up.

I did not expect to see Barreda loose out today.

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Old 01-09-2013, 12:59 PM   #5348
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This is correct, the neutralized section is part of the special stage, just un-timed so yes, the same regulations apply. No fuel from external sources.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:59 PM   #5349
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I still think its the lack of Coma trying to make 3-5 minutes a day that has Cyril adopting a different, calmer strategy. Coma's breakaway are maybe the only thing that can chip away at Cyril. When Coma does that, well, CD's got no choice but to keep him within striking distance. Then you see them both begin to pull away from the pack.

Still I think its in the best interest of CD to surf the wave, and when eveyone else begins to shed parts all over the sand all he has to do is stay fresh at 85%.

I guess CD thinks he has a margin of at least 20 mins that he can lose at any time, and be able to get it back. I wouldnt worry unless he's at least that far back.
I wouldn't say "chip away" at Cyril but I think it is Coma that makes Cyril perform at his best. They are a pairing in which they make each other better, not break each other down. That is why we have seen bigger gaps in the past.
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Time for me to re-pimp my Coma/Despres style contrast

http://www.rallyraidreview.com/post/...trast-in-style
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:00 PM   #5351
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Thanks Doyle, thats what I was trying to say, in a word.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:05 PM   #5352
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:07 PM   #5353
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Time for me to re-pimp my Coma/Despres style contrast

http://www.rallyraidreview.com/post/...trast-in-style
And, on cue, Cyril in his own words


There was a really steep downhill section on the dunes today lasting for about 4km that was an impressive section to race. The technique for that was to try my best to stay on my bike and not to flip over the handlebars. The sand was soft so I reduced my speed to about 15km/h to make sure there were no accidents.

The way the race is going so far Iím sure the guys who are winning the stages are surprised by their results. During the stage nobody has any idea of the kind of times the other bikers have so they seem to just be going as fast as they can.

The way some of the guys have been riding in these early stages is not so easy to understand. They are pushing so hard and forcing the engine on day four of the race just to try and have one good stage. Dakar is long and I have always found it better to save something for the very end.

I have been avoiding the dust so far in this race so I think that my engine must be in a better condition than the other guys who are rushing on each stage. The reason I can avoid the dust is because Iím usually in front and opening the track. This is good for my air filters and engine.

I donít push too much because when you increase the speed the navigation becomes a lot more difficult. Also it protects my engine so I guess my mechanic will be happy again tonight.

The only problems Iíve been having out on the stage are the other bikes riding so close to me. The desert is huge but the others like to stay very close to me. Maybe they think a magician will come and teleport me to the end of the stage but thatís not my secret. The truth is Iím just trying to be as sensible as I can with my riding to protect my bike and my chances of winning this race.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:09 PM   #5354
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looks like they're checking to see how clogged the air filter got. Remember, Helder has been pushing through the field these past 2 days, must be hell on the engine (see Cyril quote above)
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:10 PM   #5355
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