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Old 01-11-2013, 10:53 AM   #8071
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The last 30km of the liaison is all downhill, so if Despres could get into neutral or take his chain off he could roll into the bivouac.

Perhaps he decided to stop and fix the bike on the liaison....you can imagine the cameras and crap waiting for him like vultures. I would have done the same....
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:54 AM   #8072
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:54 AM   #8073
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The last 30km of the liaison is all downhill, so if Despres could get into neutral or take his chain off he could roll into the bivouac.

Perhaps he decided to stop and fix the bike on the liaison....you can imagine the cameras and crap waiting for him like vultures. I would have done the same....
can he push until the downhill section, with the chain off the sprocket as someone suggested earlier?
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:55 AM   #8074
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I would like to say again that it's not smart to put all eggs into Cyril basket.
All three water carriers + Challeco have the pace to finish on the podium. If you sacrifice one of them to help Despres (who is behind on every stage, despite tactics) you multiply the risk of not finishing at all.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:55 AM   #8075
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Right now, unfortunately, it looks like the most effective course of action is to swap an entire engine with someone else riding a 450RR.

I bet you Cyril will be paying top dollar, maybe even a whole bike for next year to whomever is tempted.
Seriously.... I think, Faria will give him his engine
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:56 AM   #8076
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:56 AM   #8077
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Right now, unfortunately, it looks like the most effective course of action is to swap an entire engine with someone else riding a 450RR.

I bet you Cyril will be paying top dollar, maybe even a whole bike for next year to whomever is tempted.
Lyndon, here's a good business in perspective ride tomorrow in 4th and ride again next year, all expenses paid!
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:56 AM   #8078
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Dug around a bit and found the following:

@ 22:15 - Eurosport 1 (Highlights)
@ 01:05 - France 2 (Bivouac)

All times given in UTC / GMT.
Nothing more on France 3/4 or ES 1.
Thanks this is very useful, could you let us know tomorrow as well please?
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #8079
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Right now, unfortunately, it looks like the most effective course of action is to swap an entire engine with someone else riding a 450RR.

I bet you Cyril will be paying top dollar, maybe even a whole bike for next year to whomever is tempted.

He's going to pay them in CRFs?
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #8080
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Post from Kurt's blog 2 days ago (hope I'm not 205in it here): http://http://www.redbull.com/en/mot...le-bit-better-

It gets better all the time and the next few days should be good. Its still early in the race but I would like to be getting better times but also I’m happy that I’m staying in the race. I’m just cruising and when I get this navigating under control I think I’ll start riding a bit harder.
The atmosphere between the riders is kind of relaxed on the stage because you’re not just racing each other but also racing together against the course and the conditions. It’s the not the same intense and close racing you get in motocross or even the desert races that I do in the States. At the Dakar if you pass the guy in front of you need to be sure that you know where you’re going.



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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #8081
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They are allowed to do any work to the bike in the bivouac, the restriction is on who can work on it and what parts they can get within the bivouac. Last year, the liaison route matched up with the assistance route so the teams took advantage of that and worked on the bikes on the liaison so the bikes could receive the full attention of the mechanics prior to entering the bivouac where on the riders would be allowed to work on them.

There is no restriction on working on the bikes in the biv, just that no mechanics or other support personnel are allowed in the help.
Ahh, thanks, that clears that up for me (hope you don't mind but I cross posted your reply on wilddogs.za.net)
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #8082
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I would like to say again that it's not smart to put all eggs into Cyril basket.
All three water carriers + Challeco have the pace to finish on the podium. If you sacrifice one of them to help Despres (who is behind on every stage, despite tactics) you multiply the risk of not finishing at all.
That is a very good point. I still think that somebody will pass him his engine though...
politics...go figure...
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #8083
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The last 30km of the liaison is all downhill, so if Despres could get into neutral or take his chain off he could roll into the bivouac.

Perhaps he decided to stop and fix the bike on the liaison....you can imagine the cameras and crap waiting for him like vultures. I would have done the same....
Dakar.com had him moving again after about 10mins.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #8084
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Right now, unfortunately, it looks like the most effective course of action is to swap an entire engine with someone else riding a 450RR.

I bet you Cyril will be paying top dollar, maybe even a whole bike for next year to whomever is tempted.
That is the sensible option of course, but then it will place him nearly 30 mins behind the leaders... I'm still waiting for a 'miracle' to have happened overnight... then they have the whole rest day to swap back, sorry, I mean sort the two bikes out...

After all, they'll be doing an engine swap for a fresh factory mill on rest day anyway?

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Old 01-11-2013, 10:58 AM   #8085
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can he push until the downhill section, with the chain off the sprocket as someone suggested earlier?
I think easily enough he should be able to go on his own gravity. These mountain passes are all built at very consistent gradients.
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