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Old 03-11-2013, 04:51 PM   #16
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You can re-use this o-ring (white or orange) as long as it is in good shape.

*You can re-use this o-ring (white or orange) as long as it is in good shape.
NOT SO!!! Pardon the shout, but both Snowbum http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/Oil.htm
(almost half way down the page) and Oak have said the used white O-ring may deform during use,
and both say to renew the white O-ring.
That is one of the reaons it's called the $2000 or now the $3-4000 O-ring.
Personally, I've always replaced the O-ring during filter changes.
The cost is really minimal when compared to the risks. But I'll leave it up to you to decide.
Also, I have some information from WIX Filters regarding bulk purchasing for oil cooler models:

Shelf life on a paper filter is 5 to 7 years. After that the paper gets brittle and
I wouldn't recommend using it. 24947 was not superceded to a new number.>
And now I'm stuck with at least 8 old oil filters.Oh well, live and learn.

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Old 03-11-2013, 05:52 PM   #17
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Re-using the white O-ring works great if you mind what you are doing although I usually replace it.

Aftermarket oil filters? I am out of the loop as to what works and what doesn't. I have seen too many lunched engines for aftermarket oil filters to experiment on my engines OR my customers.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:34 PM   #18
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Re-using the white O-ring works great if you mind what you are doing although I usually replace it.

Aftermarket oil filters? I am out of the loop as to what works and what doesn't. I have seen too many lunched engines for aftermarket oil filters to experiment on my engines OR my customers.
I agree no after market filters!
Where's the best (cheapest) place to get OEM oil filters?
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:54 AM   #19
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Well, finally got around to the first filter change yesterday. Old single piece filter seemed collapsed inside. Had the white O-ring and it was there for a while. Had deformed to fit the space it was in. The o-ring was still proud of the flange so I feel it was still sealing. Sides had squared off & a ridge where fitted to the canister. No rips or tears noted.

And it appears a shim was not used where it should have been. As far as I could tell the canister does not have a rolled lip. The white O-ring looked to have still had a good seal, but due to the way it had taken shape I went with the reddish/orange seal & will order some white ones or a couple filters on next parts order. First filter change went OK, no leaks. But I haven't looked yet today.

Will cut open the old filter today and check for any contamination, EI, metal chunks. The Wix filter did say made in Poland. Same as the canister Wix, Napa Gold filters I get for my old Bimmer.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:30 AM   #20
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If you really want to save $$$$ you could always go this route:



Single ply for normal use....Double ply for heavy duty service....
"Perfumed" is available for those "anal" riders.



I saw a "remote" toilet paper filter set up on a Guzzi once...
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:34 AM   #21
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After all the reading up now regarding which filter to use. I'll not cheap out on this crucial maintenance item. I'll make sure to order at least a couple filters when ordering next batch of parts. And swap filter again just as a precaution since the filter I removed appeared had been there a long time. Probably way too long.
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:59 AM   #22
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Man, I am so glad I have an early engine and don't have to worry about this stuff!
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:15 AM   #23
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Pulled the pleats apart the check for metal. There may have been just a few that I could see. Will get it out in the sunlight to check again. The few (less than 10) I saw were very, very small flecks. Filter looks old, must have been there for a while. I'll leave the Wix in till I get more correct filters. I haven't had a problem using Wix in my old bimmers that I've been driving since '96. Napa Gold is exact one from Wix & have used Mann all these years. Throw in a couple dealer filters. But I do realize these are completely different engines and I do want this boxer to last me a very long time.
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Old 03-13-2013, 03:55 PM   #24
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If Mann filters were available for boxers I'd be happy to use them. I've cut apart a lot of them (Porsches) and they are good stuff.
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:32 PM   #25
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If Mann filters were available for boxers...
Mann filters here - http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/pro...of-570mh57.htm .
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:18 PM   #26
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So, I take it Mann filters are good? The pricing on a 5-pack looks good, even compared to the NAPA prices.
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:52 PM   #27
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So, I take it Mann filters are good? The pricing on a 5-pack looks good, even compared to the NAPA prices.
I'm switching to them, thanks to craydds! I'm not knocking Wix or any other aftermarket filters, it's just that I've only ever run BMW filters in my bike, but I have experience with Mann filters elsewhere and trust them well enough to use them. I really hate spending almost $20 for an oil filter.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:12 PM   #28
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I use Mahle OX36 filters - my local airhead specialist sells these in Vancouver. The quality has been great - I've never found a crushed one.

I've been reading for years about the deformation of the big white o-ring. I had never actually seen one take a set in the last seven years that I've been working on this machine - until today. Finally I now can claim to see the difference between a new one and an old one. I would never consider re-using a deformed one a second time around. And yes, I measure my cansister every time - it's still at 3.65 mm.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:17 PM   #29
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I believe the Mahle OX36 is the original BMW factory filter and is NLA in the US, Not 100% sure though.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:12 PM   #30
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I believe the Mahle OX36 is the original BMW factory filter and is NLA in the US, Not 100% sure though.
The box says OEM. You can get them up here in Canada.
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