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Old 11-27-2013, 07:52 AM   #1
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Ship bike or buy in-country (Mideast/Europe)

Long story short, I'll be working in the middle east/Europe for the foreseeable future, and have some serious off time.

I'm contemplating shipping my '07 GS to Turkey (or similar) since I'll be flying in/out of Dubai monthly, and can go pick up where I left off on the last adventure in and around Europe.

The other option I would have is buying something to keep over there, but with no residence to speak of, I figure the legal logistics would be a nightmare.

Anyone have experience like this when doing world trips? Shipping should be pretty simple, but the tertiary logistics is foreign to me.

-Registration? Insurance? Where to store while back at work?

I'd love to hear war stories or tips and tricks. My timetable would be shipping the bike in the summer/fall of 2014.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:03 PM   #2
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Interesting Problem!

Great problem to have! I know you can identify a possible solution or two.

I bought a used 1150GS when working in Paris several years ago; no issues since I lived there at the time. But I'm not sure there would be any difficulties in any case. I rode to Azerbaijan, which was the next project location, then sold it for cash. It would have had to have been exported by air, since I was leaving in winter. Also, it was a Euro-spec bike so shipping it to the USA was not practical (and was very expensive). Of course I took a loss on it, but that was just the cost of my little adventure.


Shipping a US bike over and back would be expensive. Whether shipping your bike or buying one in the EU, storing it could perhaps be arranged with a dealer in Turkey (for example). There are also motorcycle tour operators in Turkey you might talk to about it.

I knew a Brit who had his bike when working in Tbilisi and rode it to Ankara, I believe, for maintenance.

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Old 11-27-2013, 01:06 PM   #3
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and by the way...

I almost forgot - my video for the Paris to Baku trip is here:

https://vimeo.com/76221629
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:48 PM   #4
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Long story short, I'll be working in the middle east/Europe for the foreseeable future, and have some serious off time.

I'm contemplating shipping my '07 GS to Turkey (or similar) since I'll be flying in/out of Dubai monthly, and can go pick up where I left off on the last adventure in and around Europe.

The other option I would have is buying something to keep over there, but with no residence to speak of, I figure the legal logistics would be a nightmare.

Anyone have experience like this when doing world trips? Shipping should be pretty simple, but the tertiary logistics is foreign to me.

-Registration? Insurance? Where to store while back at work?

I'd love to hear war stories or tips and tricks. My timetable would be shipping the bike in the summer/fall of 2014.
Should you send your own bike over, or buy one locally, you΄ll need to do your own homework on that, fit in your riding plans, and then decide. Both options have their ups and downs. I΄d say for Europe, buying locally is certainly a strong option, as there are lots of bikes on offer, and registration, insurance etc. can be sorted.

I΄ve shipped my motorcycle twice by air, and twice by sea, and I΄d say that is a jungle. Even if US <-> Europe is one of the more common shipping routes (..shipping to/from the Mideast could be a whole different ballgame, I think!)

Sometimes it might work out okay, but more often than not, shipping gets you a headache somewhere along the way. Even if you get so lucky, that everything goes smooth as butter, it takes time & effort to arrange everything, and it costs money to ship there AND back.

BTW there΄s a long thread on “Buying and storing a motorcycle in Europe” here:
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=868979
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:39 PM   #5
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Thanks for the help! I'll be heading over for my first trip soon, and I'll scope possibilities.

I've got some friends in Germany and Poland, and have some lines on possible storage in Turkey. Seems buying an 1150 or 1200 might make the most sense, and I'll pack my gear sparingly each trip and add to the kit-out.

Initially I figured Turkey for proximity to my Dubai transit point, but maybe Europe makes the most sense for the first legs of the trip. I'd like to start with a Napoleonic trip, traversing Europe and "ending" in Russia.
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Old 12-16-2013, 04:55 PM   #6
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There was an international adventure motorcycling board that was all about people buying and selling used bikes for their trips. I just looked in my bookmarks and couldn't find it - must've lost it along the way. And have no idea if it still exists, but if it does that would be worth checking out. If it's still around I'd bet someone here can provide the link.
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Old 12-16-2013, 05:14 PM   #7
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Dubai and Turkey aren't really that close to each other... I'm assuming you know your way around the Middle East, so you must have a plan for getting to Turkey regularly?

I moved to the UAE with a few other people who ride, and we all priced the cost of shipping bikes over there, and it seemed cheaper to leave it home and buy over there. Quotes were in the area of a few grand, so figure you are out $5k round trip, if you are going to bring it back to the USA at some point.

One guy did ship a bike over, and it took months. A large part of that was customs in Dubai, so other countries could be easier. Navigating customs or any government institution in the UAE is a time consuming and patience testing activity.

There were a lot of really good deals on used bikes because expats bought them and sold them a few years later.

If you have the option to buy used in a European country, that may be easier. More places to ride, all of Europe, former Soviet Union and parts of the Middle East.

I did have some friends who traveled and just rented bikes in various countries. Depending on how your time is going to work out, could be an option. Pay as you go, minimal risk, but not the same as having your own bike.
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