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Old 01-11-2013, 07:29 AM   #271
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Before it gets busy, note these broadcast times:

France4 @ 1840 CET, 1240 EST

Eurosport2 @ 1830 GMT, 1330 EST

Eurosport1 @ 2215 GMT, 1715 EST

France2 @ 0020 CET, 1820 EST


That ought to be close to accurate, though yesterdays times on Fr2 got pushed back 15 min or so. It's been my experience that european sporting coverage is flexible, not on a rigid schedule like north american coverage. So don't be surprised when it's not on when they say it's gonna be on. It will be, once they've finished their espresso and chatted up the new intern.
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Reports say that Thomas was killed in a crash with a police vehicle. It's now coming from different local journo sources, so fear it's true.

Thomas Bourgin, 25, from St. Etienne



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I was really hoping this would turn out to be unsubstantiated rumor frenzy. Perhaps the organization will put something out soon, but they are probably bound to notify Thomas' family first if this is indeed the case.

Given the current into, Ride in Peace, Thomas.

At this time, the news has been confirmed by the Dakar Organization:

Death of the rider Thomas Bourgin

Motorcycle rider no. 106 Thomas Bourgin (FRA) was the victim of a fatal traffic accident on the link route as he made his way to the start of the day's special stage.

The accident took place at 08.23 hours local time on the link route on the way up to the Chilean side of the mountain range. The 25-year-old rider collided with a Chilean police car that was travelling in the opposite direction. The exact circumstances of the accident are being subjected to an inquiry.

The rally's medical teams deployed on the ground were only able to certify the rider's death, probably instant.

Thomas Bourgin, from Saint Etienne, where he was born on December 23rd 1987, was in 68th place in the overall ranking of his first Dakar. He had realised his passion since 2009 when he took part in the Morocco Rally, followed by a 4th place in the 2011 Africa Race and a 7th place finish in the Tunisia Rally.

The organisers of the Dakar and everyone involved in it express their great sadness to his family and friends and offer their most sincere condolences.

http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2013/us/s...l-release.html
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:04 AM   #273
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This stage is FAST. Most overtaking posssibility are before Wp2, with some navigation. Half way to Wp3 it goes to a rough double track that follows a spectacular valley. At times this track is very fast with badly rutted and washed away section that may catch the unaware, but at other times its is very bad with numerous stream crossings, lots of rocks. Near the end there is a diversion up another road that takes the rides well above 3,300m again, before a descent back to the main road down a what looks to be a very rough river bed.

Noteworthy is that the bike will not have any opportunity for assistance after the special, the last time they can see an assistance truck is just before the SS.

Here you go.

My long section (bear in mind altitude is very smoothed on Google earth and therefore much less precise)


Their Long section - close enough.

Their map (decidely imprecise)


Our map (blue Liaison/assistance routes, Red for the Special) Not many other options availible unless they are off piste. I think its reasonably close.


Zoom in on the first part of the stage


Aerial view looking South east from the Ass towards the finish


Some photo from the area:
On the way to Wp1


Between Wp2 & 3 (it may be a little wet at this time of year)


View of the 2nd half of the SS


The final loop up to altitude in the WP5 area


Aerial view back toward the DSS from the ASS. There route might cut a loop earlier over the second ridge on the right, but I could not find a track there. Old photo maybe.


Some pics of the valley descent

Near the top 3,800m




On the loop near Wp5


Final descent to ASS
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:06 AM   #274
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Kurt consistently eating 3 minutes per WP on Cyril. At the 3rd he is +9

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No one in top 10 is losing more then a minute to the leader except for Cyril Despres.
If his bike has been leaned for altitude other KTMs are not. Hmm ...
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Joan Barreda sigue al ralentí. Incapaz de rodar en top15! Cyril cede 8 minutos al líder Pain!!! Cuidado!!!


So barreda struck with issues as well...

Maybe today was the day Cyril should have take his engine change
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:07 AM   #275
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:07 AM   #276
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In happier news, it looks that Matt Fish has taken his start today.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:08 AM   #277
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and Caselli consistently first into WP4...
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Despres down to 22nd at Wp3, with more to come...he must have some kind of problem.
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Even though his lead is slight, Kurt Caselli still remains out in front of the special ahead of Olivier Pain and Frans Verhoeven by 1'11". At the 142-km point, Cyril Despres has again lost time and trails the stage leader by 8'59". Another of the leading trio in the general standings, David Casteu has posted a time in the top 10, a little less than 3 minutes behind Caselli.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:09 AM   #278
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Maybe becquse the stage was so short and fast they didnt see the advantage of keeping the WC in reserve. Practically a sprint, so let the dogs out

I also think that with the entire field being with a few minutes of each other, the big c can still face 20 minutes at this almost half way point and not be in panic mode
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:09 AM   #279
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Pyndon was only +00:09:26 behind the fastest time @ WP1

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Old 01-11-2013, 09:10 AM   #280
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Bingo. I spent months on the Altiplano and it kicked the living shit out of me physically. I would gorge myself when I ate but it wasn't always enough b/c I'd be on the bike for 10 hours or more a day at times. It's like your body can't keep up with the demands of converting the limited oxygen to red blood cells. It probably wasn't helping that I was drinking vino tinto like it was going out of style.

Today's stage is bringing back a lot of memories, I loved the riding in this area and Salta is probably my favorite Argentine city.

I couldn't tell from the map if the liasion took them near Paso Sico or not, it looked like the route was north of here.



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Olivier Pain will be up 15min overall at this rate.
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wow, even Faria has passed Cyril in the overall...

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Old 01-11-2013, 09:11 AM   #282
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I just checked out tomorrows route and I have to hand it to David Castera - Assistance vehicles will be miles from the bikes until they get to the bivouac. So there will be no opportunity for the factory team assistance crap we saw in the neutralisation section yesterday. I guess that is why they let it pass. And tomorrow is a LOOOONNG 471km special with a 228km liaison (not shared by the assistance route). Its going to separate the men from the boys BIG time.

Of course it also means we will ikely get less news tonight as well, form the riders themselves that is.
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Remember the tire issues from a few years ago on the really long stages?

Hard surface in the early stage tomorrow, followed by some terrain that you'd damn well better have some knobs left for.

With the "young guns" running hell for leather, it could be a long play by Cyril, betting that even the WC's from the other teams will have chewed their tires too far.

Seems too far off the pace to be reasonable for me, but I guess tomorrow will tell.
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'merican takes the stage.

Where is Pain?
Edit: 1 minute down. Great ride.
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the problem with the CDP riding conservatively theory is he wasn't. he was riding SLOOOOWWW

slower than almost 40 other riders so far... and i don't think that is just letting the young guns cook their tyres...
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Ben and Mark were treated at the scene. Ben had an injury to his back and was transferred to a local hospital in Calama, Chile, for care and further tests. He has since been discharged. Mark, battered and bruised, was taken for observation at the medical centre at the event bivouac.
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