Washington states outgoing governor Christine Gregoire to the EPA?

[guns_equal_freedom]

Originally Posted by Handy

She wanted clean air!! That filthy socialist pig! What next? Clean water?!?!

There was no need to add the cost of a California compliant vehicle to Washington state consumers.

[DireWolf]

Pointing out stupidity/misogyny is not the same as trolling.

[tod701]

Originally Posted by dhally

Comment to OP: it seems strange that conservatives/republicans seem opposed to environmental legislation, given their stand on most morals issues. Being good stewards of the earth is considered by most to be a moral obligation as well.

I personally strongly support rational environmental stewardship and think poorly of people that don't.

That said, it is crtitcally important to understand that all governmental intervention does not equate to either good stewardship or what is in the best interest of the people of our State.

There are many political or bureaucratic actions taken under the guise of being good for the environment that are actually done for reasons that have little to nothing to do with their stated intent.

While to those not directly involved it may not be easy to decipher, it still most be understood as being significant.

[shrubitup]

Originally Posted by Apple Jam

I know, right?
Like, doesn't she know there are bike riders that don't care about that?
So out of touch with her public

The clean water act and clean air act have been around for decades. What new efforts are required other than paying attention to existing law?

[guns_equal_freedom]

Originally Posted by DireWolf

Pointing out stupidity/misogyny is not the same as trolling.

In your narrow-minded obtuse world it might not be.

A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll, and you are the poster boy.
You come into almost every thread I post and start trolling.
It's not my fault that the mods are asleep at the switch.

[Handy]

Originally Posted by shrubitup

The clean water act and clean air act have been around for decades. What new efforts are required other than paying attention to existing law?

Some pollutants did not even exist in 1970, other compounds were not known to have adverse effects.

[Apple Jam]

Originally Posted by guns_equal_freedom

In your narrow-minded obtuse world it might not be.

A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll, and you are the poster boy.
You come into almost every thread I post and start trolling.
It's not my fault that the mods are asleep at the switch.

My guess is that the mods might possibly be letting him post back at you like that,
....hoping that one day you'll get the message that your CS&M-style Thread Starters and angry-esque posts clog up the fun we normally have here in the NW Regionals.

He posts his political or other off-motorcycling opinions and topics where they are mo-betta appreciated,
and was merely suggesting that you do so, too.
IMO, it was likely for politeness', sake, Guns.....not just to hassle you...

And BTW, YOU calling someone "narrow-minded", really has no credibility whatsoever.

Edit: I appreciate much of what you do offer here,
and the Ride Reports that you share with some of your friends are fun to read.
Real Adventures, even the ones in the trucks . More of that, please...

[Handy]

So your response to how you were fucked by her was that she made Washington use CA compliant vehicles which raised the cost for the consumers.
A quick search of identical pick ups, one in Kirkland, one in Boise, shows that I would save over $3300 by buying in Washington.
So how has she fucked you again?

[guns_equal_freedom]

Originally Posted by Handy

So your response to how you were fucked by her was that she made Washington use CA compliant vehicles which raised the cost for the consumers.
A quick search of identical pick ups, one in Kirkland, one in Boise, shows that I would save over $3300 by buying in Washington.
So how has she fucked you again?

Have you bothered to read my edited original post?

[shrubitup]

Originally Posted by Handy

Some pollutants did not even exist in 1970, other compounds were not known to have adverse effects.

EPA has already regulated those under either RCRA or CERCLA. Wash does it under MTCA. All existing laws.

[DireWolf]

Originally Posted by shrubitup

EPA has already regulated those under either RCRA or CERCLA. Wash does it under MTCA. All existing laws.

The differences of those laws and how compounds are regulated under them are different and serve different roles. State rules are updated as tox data is updated, as are EPA's RSLs.

[shrubitup]

Originally Posted by DireWolf

The differences of those laws and how compounds are regulated under them are different and serve different roles. State rules are updated as tox data is updated, as are EPA's RSLs.

maybe EPA under new direction will clean it all up then.

[DireWolf]

Originally Posted by shrubitup

maybe EPA under new direction will clean it all up then.

You know enough to parrot the acronyms, but not enough to know what you are talking about.

Good talk.

[Double H]

direwolf makes yet another friend

[DireWolf]

Originally Posted by Double H

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