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Old 04-27-2013, 08:55 PM   #106
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Really happy to hear that the Forza may be coming to the US! I've pointed out before that Honda had a really obvious gap in their scooter offerings with nothing between 150cc to 600cc.

It will be interesting to see how this compares to the BV350 from a price/feature/ergonomic standpoint.

Also important to understand the service intervals.

If ABS is available there are those of us who love that feature and it would be a differentiator from the other 300cc class offerings out there.

Regardless, it's all speculation at this point, but I'm just happy to see that we might get another offering in middle range scooter selection. Honda has a strong dealer model, which some of the other players can't match.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:24 AM   #107
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This thing looks really cool.

I wonder about leg room. I have a 34" inseam and just look stupid on some scooters with my knees way up in the air.

I bet Honda would name it the Reflex in the US instead of the Forza.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:51 AM   #108
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Well now I'm in a holding pattern and have stopped looking for another scoot. With the Forza showing up on dealer sites I'm hoping it will be offered sooner than later. Sure would be nice if it is available before summer.

CB it will be interesting to see what they call it here. My guess is Forza, not Reflex. We'll see.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:25 AM   #109
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I called the Jacksonville dealer that has the Forza on its site to ask what the price and delivery date would be.

Kevin didn't know but said he would look into it and get back to me. Hopefully he will.

A fly/ride from Jacksonville would be sweet!
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:53 AM   #110
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I did not hear back from the dealer so I called again today.

The sales man had no idea what I was talking about. He could not find anything on his website but let me email the link to him.

He checked it out and called back. He says they have no indication from Honda that the scooter will be sold in the United States. He did not say it would not be sold, only that the dealership has heard nothing.

Oh well, let's keep our fingers crossed.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:13 PM   #111
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I was looking at a Reflex too for a while but thought the wheels were on the small side. Plus, Reflex owners think they command a premium price over other scooters and it's hard to find a good one cheap.

The Forza 300 has a 14" on the front and a 13" on the back which I think will work better. It has also has a bigger and more powerful engine while being better on gas mileage than a Reflex.

The Forza is made in Thailand so it shouldn't be to expensive. I am hoping Honda keeps the price below $5,500.
That's because the Reflex ia a great, reliable scooter. I see lots of low mile ones for $2500-$2800. 70mpg and 80mph. Put in a Big Ruckus Face'b' and 19g sliders and up the performance.
Bet the Forza doesn't come in under $6000.
BTW, I've got 2 Reflexes, looking at another.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:07 PM   #112
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what does the forza have over the bv 350 other than having a proper parts distribution network?
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:30 PM   #113
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You know I ve love honda but here in canada for now #)($* reason there 25% more cost then in the usa. Eg you can get a ncx700 for 7 grand and here it's 9. MOre then likely the same thing with this great scooter.
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:18 AM   #114
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what does the forza have over the bv 350 other than having a proper parts distribution network?
Room for a normal sized adult.
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Room for a normal sized adult.
??? at 5'11" and 185, i'm plenty comfortable on the bv. is there something i'm missing, here?
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:46 AM   #116
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??? at 5'11" and 185, i'm plenty comfortable on the bv. is there something i'm missing, here?
I'm 5'11" and 200lbs and had more room on the Piaggio ZIP/Fly or my
Kymco Agility.

The butstop/backrest is too close for me.
Tried a People GTi 300 after the BV300 (and 350 later) and it's considerably
roomier.

I didn't have this issue with the older version of the BV250-300, or the 500.

Besides, there's really no point in comparing a GT scoot with a cityscoot like a BV.
Piaggio has the X-Evo and X10 in that segment.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:06 PM   #117
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what does the forza have over the bv 350 other than having a proper parts distribution network?
There are 10 Vespa dealerships between Tennesee, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina. There are approximately 1200 Honda motorcycle dealers in the US.

My Vespa is old, so i get parts mail order and do my own work. However, my P200 is the technical equivalent of a Weedeater. Outside a major metropolitan area I don't know how folks get a modern Vespa serviced with FI, computer controls, Electric fuel pumps, water cooling, etc.

As much as I dearly love the BV, there is admittedly something to be said for knowing that the Forza could be serviced pretty readily all over the country (US).
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:13 PM   #118
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I checked the Honda web site in Canada and they already had it on the site (though with no price).

I've ridden bicycles for years and years and haven't owned a scooter yet. According to messages I've read, some people like the low center of gravity of scooters. And I thought having bigger wheels with shocks and my legs on the side so it would be safer. They say there's enough space for two helmets and it should be heavy and powerful enough for the highway. I can't wait to see people's reviews on this because it appears to be one of the more rational choices I can find.



Of course people say the PCX 150 handles like a bicycle. I hope this one does because I've read very positive comments on Hondas.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:17 AM   #119
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Of course people say the PCX 150 handles like a bicycle. I hope this one does because I've read very positive comments on Hondas.
Compared to big motorcycles, it does.

You'll get a lighter feeling from a scooter with smaller wheels, like the
Forza. My Dowtown 300 feels like it's got 50% weight less, and it's
probably because of the low center of gravity and small wheels.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:31 AM   #120
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