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Old 01-06-2013, 12:00 PM   #1
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Buell Ulysses XB12X Frame Damage

I've been looking an an xb12x for sale, the bike was dropped stationary and slid down a hill. The puck took most of the damage and cracked the powercoating. I believe the frame could be dented under the puck. The bike rides ok.

Would you walk away? Just want more opinions.




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Old 01-06-2013, 12:03 PM   #2
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Depends on everything else especially the price.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:20 PM   #3
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If the powder coat is cracked then there's a good chance the frame is dented. The puck can be replaced. They just stick on with an adhesive. If the bike is in otherwise good shape and priced right it would be a contender. If the dented frame is going to bug ya then pass.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:34 PM   #4
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I believe the frame could be dented under the puck.
I dropped my '06 Uly on the left side and didn't dent the frame.
And the puck, on mine, looked a lot worse than, the one, shown in your photos.

Ask the seller if they would remove the puck so you know for sure, that's what I would do. A new puck is going to run less than $50.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:04 PM   #5
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If the frame is dented under the puck and there are no penetrating cracks would the bike still handle the same?
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:32 PM   #6
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If the frame is dented under the puck and there are no penetrating cracks would the bike still handle the same?
I believe if frame was cracked, it would be leaking gas wouldn't it ? Frame is gas tank.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:07 PM   #7
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If the frame is dented under the puck and there are no penetrating cracks would the bike still handle the same?
If it's not leaking fuel you would probably never know the difference. If I was looking at this bike I would probably replace the puck, touch-up the powder coat and call it good.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:58 PM   #8
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I wouldn't be afraid of that dent if it doesn't leak. Look the bike over closely for other damage like say, the swingarm for example. It took a pretty hard whack to make that dent. The dent should be great leverage to get the price down a bunch.

To an insurance company, that dent would total the bike so check the title to see if it is "salvage". If so, financing it would be a problem but if financing is not an issue for you then a salvage title would serve to be further bargaining leverage.

Good used frames can be had for a few hundred bucks and are not too hard to swap out but don't tell the seller that.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:07 AM   #9
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When the XB's came out in 2003, there were no "pucks". A lot of frames on these bikes got dented in minor tip-overs or low sides. I never heard of this being a problem apart from cosmetics, although insurance companies would sometimes total these bikes as the only way to fix them was to replace the frame. Some people cosmetically repaired the dents by sanding, filling with Bondo or similar, and repainting.

The replaceable pucks were a big improvement when they came out in 2004.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:04 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info. I believe the frame is ok but I have another concern. Im aware that buels vibrate a lot. During idle the instrument cluster vibrates, when I revved it to 1700-2000rpm the cluster really shook. Today I had a look at a buell at a dealers and it shook significantly less.

What do you think could be the problem?
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:06 PM   #11
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Thanks for the info. I believe the frame is ok but I have another concern. Im aware that buels vibrate a lot. During idle the instrument cluster vibrates, when I revved it to 1700-2000rpm the cluster really shook. Today I had a look at a buell at a dealers and it shook significantly less.

What do you think could be the problem?
Mostly likely tuning, Harleys and Buells being air cooled are also very cold sensitive. I have a Harley that runs like crap when cold(especially when air temps are below 60 degrees) but smooths out nicely as soon as it warms up a bit. Takes anywhere from 5-15 minutes depending on air temps. If the bike has sat for awhile it could also be fuel related. One thing with Buell and Harley, the engines are caveman simple to work on.

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:26 AM   #12
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Probably the IAT sensor going out. If it is, it should run much smoother once it warms up.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:22 AM   #13
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There are plenty of unmolested Ulys for sale out there. A quick search on CycleTrader brings up 32 spread across the USA. I would pass on this one.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:08 PM   #14
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There are plenty of unmolested Ulys for sale out there. A quick search on CycleTrader brings up 32 spread across the USA. I would pass on this one.
I agree. If there are more issues than the one minor dent, pass on it. These bikes are easy to work on and stone simple but too many things do add up. Unless it's really, really inexpensive and you are mechanically inclined, keep looking for a better bike.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:12 PM   #15
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Thanks for the info. I believe the frame is ok but I have another concern. Im aware that buels vibrate a lot. During idle the instrument cluster vibrates, when I revved it to 1700-2000rpm the cluster really shook. Today I had a look at a buell at a dealers and it shook significantly less.

What do you think could be the problem?
How many miles on the one with the scratched up puck? My Uly really smoothed out after it had some miles on it. The shake at idle when it was new was a bit extreme, not bad now at 27k miles. IAT sensor could be the culprit as stated in an earlier post, also could be a fouled or nearly fouled plug, which can be common for these bikes depending on how it is run.

Also, what year is the one you are interested in buying? I would steer clear of any 2007 models as they seem to have had a bad run of crankshafts in those.

Go on over to badweatherbikers.com for more Ulysses info than you could ever process...
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