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Old 01-09-2013, 11:42 AM   #46
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I looked up a few in my area. Most are $110.00 to $140.00 per set. That's just crazy
I'm sure that these prices include removal and installation of wheels, which may be considerable work on some bikes- I used to own one which required disassembly of the exhaust. GS wheels are super easy to take off thanks to the single sided swingarm and the center stand. I also prefer to install the wheels myself because the excessive torque can do damage.
Shops around here charge $30-43 per wheel to mount and balance. Not bad for a 15 minute job, including the paperwork.
Our local BMW dealer refuses to install tires they don't sell, all others are happy to take the money.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:23 PM   #47
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It's pretty rare tha you find a tire so out of round that you can feel the difference. I rate balancing as nice-to have but not critical on a GS. On a track bike I would balance them.
Ask Woody or ANY motorcycle tech how many wheels come in with the stick-on wheel weights missing, having falled off 4,000 miles or so ago with the rider being completely oblivious.

I have mine balanced but I'm not sure it's completely necessary. I have never balanced a tire on my dirt bikes in my life.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:40 PM   #48
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Ask Woody or ANY motorcycle tech how many wheels come in with the stick-on wheel weights missing, having falled off 4,000 miles or so ago with the rider being completely oblivious.

I have mine balanced but I'm not sure it's completely necessary. I have never balanced a tire on my dirt bikes in my life.
I have a NoMar machine and a Marc Pharns balancer. I mount and balance many tires for other riders but generally don't bother to balance my own.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:33 PM   #49
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It's pretty rare tha you find a tire so out of round that you can feel the difference. I rate balancing as nice-to have but not critical on a GS. On a track bike I would balance them.

Balance has nothing to do with tire shape. It evens out the weight distribution of the tire. Tires aren't perfect and have heavy spots. Most static balance out around .25 ounces.
I've seen .50 on some rear tires.

I can feel 1/4 ounce out, at 70 MPH. It really shows up at 80 to 85 MPH.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:37 PM   #50
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Someone quoted the BMW shop manual in a tire balance thread. BMW said if the tire requires X of oz a weight wasn't needed. Over X amount add the weight. Don't remember what X was.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:01 PM   #51
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Some of you guys have seriously shitty local dealers - I'm sorry to hear that.

Back in the UK, my local car tire store has the equipment to change bike tires but doesn't sell the tires. I bring in the (mail-ordered) tires on the back of my old airhead RT and they help me remove the wheels, mount the tires for me and chat with me while they're doing it. Last time I insisted on paying double because they were only going to charge me 5 (about $8) for the entire operation.
I'd kill to get $8 tire changes!
Local shop I bought my tires from wanted $90 bucks to do it. The old tires were off the rim's( had to be cut off with a sawzall, they were stuck!)
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:40 PM   #52
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Someone quoted the BMW shop manual in a tire balance thread. BMW said if the tire requires X of oz a weight wasn't needed. Over X amount add the weight. Don't remember what X was.
Yeah and they also say to buy BMW oil Take it to a BMW service dealer
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:54 AM   #53
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Its bead breaker is fantastic





Marc Parns balancer. I balance every tire I change.

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Old 01-10-2013, 07:40 AM   #54
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Yea but Dean do you change tires for customers who bring in their own tires? If so how much. Or do you make them pay $300 for a $150 tire?

What brand of tire machine is that?

Sorry I saw founder San Jose BMW in your signature line thought you had a shop.

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Old 01-10-2013, 08:03 AM   #55
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Yeah and they also say to buy BMW oil Take it to a BMW service dealer
My owner's manual says to use Castrol not BMW oil.

My point was it stated a tolerance for balancing. Below a certain weight they said don't bother.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:54 AM   #56
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$995.00 delivered and worth every penny.



Its bead breaker is fantastic





Marc Parns balancer. I balance every tire I change.

So, so not fair... nice big windows... wood stove... and $$$ tire changer ease.... I hate you. No really I do. Not really.. but I do.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:43 PM   #57
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My owner's manual says to use Castrol not BMW oil.

My point was it stated a tolerance for balancing. Below a certain weight they said don't bother.

They, don't ride my bike
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:47 PM   #58
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$995.00 delivered and worth every penny.

Marc Parns balancer. I balance every tire I change.

Do you have a link for the tire machine and the balance stand ? Thanks.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:34 PM   #59
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:15 PM   #60
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Some of you guys have seriously shitty local dealers - I'm sorry to hear that.

Back in the UK, my local car tire store has the equipment to change bike tires but doesn't sell the tires. I bring in the (mail-ordered) tires on the back of my old airhead RT and they help me remove the wheels, mount the tires for me and chat with me while they're doing it. Last time I insisted on paying double because they were only going to charge me 5 (about $8) for the entire operation.
I went to Vegas in 2010, before I left I thought I would change the tires on my VFR before I left as they had about 3500 km left on them. Here in Edmonton, Pilot Road 2's frt/rear combined $580.00 and 60.00 per rim off the bike. My reply was no thanks and I left for Vegas and watched the tires melt as I made my way. While in Vegas I went to Cycle Gear first thing on a Monday am, asked how much if I bring the tires in mount and balance... total price was $400.00(ish), walked outside put the bike on the center stand and removed the rims. Service was 100X better than what 2 local dealers gave me. Not the same service attitude when I was in the MC biz.
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