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Old 03-09-2013, 08:53 AM   #31
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The AMPS mount is the best solution Garmin has come up with to date. Easy to use, very sturdy and appears to have very few weak points for failure.

Why the hell Garmin doesn't use the AMPS for their so called "motorcycle" units the Zumo's is such a huge oversite it's pathetic. It really shows how out of touch the designers there really are.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:59 AM   #32
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Garmin specs and "in the box" are the same for the Oregon and Montana units, so I wondered if the power supplies were the same (as stated on Garmin's site).
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:33 PM   #33
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The AMPS mount is the best solution Garmin has come up with to date. Easy to use, very sturdy and appears to have very few weak points for failure.

Why the hell Garmin doesn't use the AMPS for their so called "motorcycle" units the Zumo's is such a huge oversite it's pathetic. It really shows how out of touch the designers there really are.
You mean the "Rugged Mount"? I haven't heard it called the AMPS mount.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:18 AM   #34
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You mean the "Rugged Mount"? I haven't heard it called the AMPS mount.
Yes the AMPS rugged mount. That's what GARMIN calls it. A little easier to type AMPS then rugged mount.

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Old 03-10-2013, 12:43 PM   #35
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There may be hope for audio from the Oregon 6xx yet! As the unit has no audio jack, it would have to be transmitted via bluetooth connection.

Inspecting the GarminDevice.xml file on my Oregon 650, I found this reference:


Having trouble getting the code to display properly here so....


'VCTVoices' data type with 'VCT' identifier and 'VPM' file extension, location path set to 'Garmin/Voice' and transfer direction set to 'InputOutput'.



As for the Unlimited *.GGZ geocache files, the same file has no reference, so I am assuming this file format is not finalized at this time.
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There may be hope for audio from the Oregon 6xx yet! As the unit has no audio jack, it would have to be transmitted via bluetooth connection.

Inspecting the GarminDevice.xml file on my Oregon 650, I found this reference:


Having trouble getting the code to display properly here so....


'VCTVoices' data type with 'VCT' identifier and 'VPM' file extension, location path set to 'Garmin/Voice' and transfer direction set to 'InputOutput'.



As for the Unlimited *.GGZ geocache files, the same file has no reference, so I am assuming this file format is not finalized at this time.
The more I hear about this model, the less I like about it. I think Garmin may have shot themselves in the foot with this one. It may appeal to new handheld gps buyers but I've seen nothing yet which tells me I "must" have one, unlike the Montana which immediately sold me.
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I also just completed loading nearly 30,000 geocaches on the device in GPX format.

The unit booted, loaded caches, never complained, and as far as I can tell, they are all present and accounted for.
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I also just completed loading nearly 30,000 geocaches on the device in GPX format.

The unit booted, loaded caches, never complained, and as far as I can tell, they are all present and accounted for.
Geocaches don't excite me the way they once did. I haven't found a decent one which wasn't full of McCrap and Mould ® in ages. And don't get me started on travel bugs and coins. What a complete waste of time and money that turned out to be for me.
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There may be hope for audio from the Oregon 6xx yet! As the unit has no audio jack, it would have to be transmitted via bluetooth connection.

Inspecting the GarminDevice.xml file on my Oregon 650, I found this reference:


Having trouble getting the code to display properly here so....


'VCTVoices' data type with 'VCT' identifier and 'VPM' file extension, location path set to 'Garmin/Voice' and transfer direction set to 'InputOutput'.



As for the Unlimited *.GGZ geocache files, the same file has no reference, so I am assuming this file format is not finalized at this time.

Does it have the TTS files?
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:56 PM   #40
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Does it have the TTS files?
The unit I received does not have any TTS files, or even the Voices directory referenced in the GarminDevice.xml file.

I assume they will be included in a future update.
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The more I hear about this model, the less I like about it. I think Garmin may have shot themselves in the foot with this one. It may appeal to new handheld gps buyers but I've seen nothing yet which tells me I "must" have one, unlike the Montana which immediately sold me.
Looking at the specs side by side they look to be about the same. What are the things different that sway you?
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Looking at the specs side by side they look to be about the same. What are the things different that sway you?
What is better about the Montana, you're asking?
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Right, going to the Garmin site and looking at the specs they look very similar.
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Right, going to the Garmin site and looking at the specs they look very similar.
Garmin's specs are notoriously unreliable. Even the GPSCity site has better specs.

Here's a comparison of the Montana 650 and the Oregon 650, on the GPSCity site.

The biggest advantages, to me anyway are these:
  1. Larger screen size
  2. Better power connector
  3. Decent lockable Rugged Mount

There are others, but these are the most important.

I won't consider buying a gps if it's powered by USB, now. I've had too much trouble with those.
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Right, going to the Garmin site and looking at the specs they look very similar.
Just to show you a few of the differences:



So to recap, the unit size is different, screen size is larger on the Montana, the Montana allows Landscape or Portrait mode orientation, resolution is higher on the Montana, the PC interface on the Montana appears to be faster, and also has NMEA. (I just noticed the Oregon can be powered by AA batteries too so I removed that reference)

Now there may be some facts wrong in the specs, but it seems clear to me that the Montana is a better all-around gps if you want to use it on a motorcycle. If you plan to use it handheld and powered by the battery, then you can save a little weight and size by going with the Oregon.

I dunno, maybe it's just me but for $50 more, why not get the best?
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