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Old 01-11-2013, 02:46 AM   #31
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I think it is just a modern 4t overview, my Husky certainly had some of those issues.
So do my Hondas, usally a result of folks who have no business working on a motorcycle. I see allot of orange out there. Last ride in the Swell we had riders from 3 different states come out, one Honda, one Yamaha, 6 KTMs, sorta speaks for itself.

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Old 01-11-2013, 04:59 AM   #32
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I think it is just a modern 4t overview, my Husky certainly had some of those issues.

As to whoops, it's a woods bike, but I can tell you now it'll pound whoops better than a 4t euro trailbike no problem. I'm going to move the 310 and get a 450/5XX 4t for pure desert duty though, as trying to compromise sucks.
My thoughts exactly! I want/need a dedicated desert bike.

I do think that the GasGas would do great out there though. But, like you say, here we go again trying to have one bike do it all!
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:03 AM   #33
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So what did you guys have to pay for the bikes only, no farkles? PM me if you want, I want one too

I rode a 2012 GG300 kicker and the front wheel felt very planted compared to the pumpkin bike and was superior in turning/ holding a line/even changing lines. Much more stable in a straight line. Trials bike heritage, great lugging motor and has some top end power.

And you don't have kick stands that break off, wheel bearings failing like no other bike, EFI problems, gas lines that fail brand new, triple clamps that break, wonder bread seat foam, low budget cylinder plating, high oil consumption, oil transfer between isolated chambers, and a host of other problems that shouldn't happen.....KTM Talk says it all
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:54 PM   #34
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Let's compare apples to apples. KTM 300s have none of those problems. Maybe the only one that is valid is the seat foam.
I have a Gasser trials bike in addition to my KTMs. I have put more repair dollars into that one two year old trials bike,than all my KTMs.

Edit. Don't bring up the 950. :

Btw, I can't wait to hear how you guys like em in the whoops. It should be brilliant in the woods!

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Luv the non applicable generalizations, have you even owned a ktm 2t? I abuse the crap out of mine never had those issues nor has any of my riding buddies, if that's your personal expierence you probably need to find a mechanic and quit working on it yourself.
And sometimes your 300 abuses YOU! Wait a minute, My orange 525 abuses me too, so maybe it's user error. Maybe the orange 300s are so light they don't have the kickstand problems. A lot of folks, myself included have had kickstand failures on KTM 4Ts. But hey, if it doesn't fail, then you can't justify a PMB replacement.

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So what did you guys have to pay for the bikes only, no farkles? PM me if you want, I want one too

I rode a 2012 GG300 kicker and the front wheel felt very planted compared to the pumpkin bike and was superior in turning/ holding a line/even changing lines. Much more stable in a straight line. Trials bike heritage, great lugging motor and has some top end power.

And you don't have kick stands that break off, wheel bearings failing like no other bike, EFI problems, gas lines that fail brand new, triple clamps that break, wonder bread seat foam, low budget cylinder plating, high oil consumption, oil transfer between isolated chambers, and a host of other problems that shouldn't happen.....KTM Talk says it all
The seat foam on my 08' GG EC300 was way, WAY worse than anything my behind has ever sat on, short of concrete in January, and definitely worse than the stocker on my KTM. Wait, no, it was worse than concrete in January. I did a little modification that helped a lot. That said, the bike has been very good to me otherwise. Out of the box it's a fair bit shorter than its orange 300 counterpart, and that was a key buying point for me. The chassis feels more like a 175 than a 300. There's a lot of parts crossover, and I've even cannibalized back and forth with my 525 to make a Sunday ride possible.

The price? Definitely less than orange if you go used. Mine was a leftover and it was less than half of list. All in all, the KTMs hold their value while the GGs quickly depreciate.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:05 PM   #35
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The price? Definitely less than orange if you go used. Mine was a leftover and it was less than half of list. All in all, the KTMs hold their value while the GGs quickly depreciate.
That is one thing I will never understand. I never buy something to HOLD value, I buy it to use it. But then I'm not trading in a motorcycle every year or two...I ride it till it dies and then maybe some. I'll have the GG for 10 years...what type of value will I expect out of it then...LOL

I also view what was the value I got from riding/driving the vehicle. It's how I sold my FZ1...guy even asked if I was okay with the price, sure I could of gotten a little more but I was fine at the price I listed it because I factored that I got X amount of fun out of it. I'm never int he market of a vehicle to try and reclaim a ton of money.

So the GG could go down $4K by next year and it don't matter to me.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:42 PM   #36
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That is one thing I will never understand. I never buy something to HOLD value, I buy it to use it. But then I'm not trading in a motorcycle every year or two...I ride it till it dies and then maybe some. I'll have the GG for 10 years...what type of value will I expect out of it then...LOL

I also view what was the value I got from riding/driving the vehicle. It's how I sold my FZ1...guy even asked if I was okay with the price, sure I could of gotten a little more but I was fine at the price I listed it because I factored that I got X amount of fun out of it. I'm never int he market of a vehicle to try and reclaim a ton of money.

So the GG could go down $4K by next year and it don't matter to me.
That was my decision too, I bought this bike to ride. It isn't an investment, just a toy financially speaking, so I decided to choose the one that felt best to ride. From all accounts it should last a while, but if I get 2 years of good riding out of it I'll be happy.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:42 PM   #37
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That's the right attitude. Buy it. Ride it. Repeat if necessary. I only mentioned the depreciation because the guy asked about price. I feel like I got my Gasser for a steal, so my my fun=X value is through the roof.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:46 PM   #38
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That's the right attitude. Buy it. Ride it. Repeat if necessary. I only mentioned the depreciation because the guy asked about price. I feel like I got my Gasser for a steal, so my my fun=X value is through the roof.
That certainly sweetens the deal!

Modette, are the Bullet Proof radiator guards the same across all years? I checked their site and it only listed 07/08 so I went with the Enduro Engineering braces, which certainly are an inferior product but should suit my purposes.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:54 PM   #39
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:27 PM   #40
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Damm KTM 4 stroker kickstands!!!!



Good thing we found this on the trail. Saved us some time to get to the important things, like getting to Taos
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:47 PM   #41
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That certainly sweetens the deal!

Modette, are the Bullet Proof radiator guards the same across all years? I checked their site and it only listed 07/08 so I went with the Enduro Engineering braces, which certainly are an inferior product but should suit my purposes.
Mike at Timberline said he had them specially made and he knew of one other red one in the whole United States. So it might be a thing where you have to call them and see. It's why I grabbed them right up when he showed them too me, they are just pretty and functional.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:46 PM   #42
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Mike at Timberline said he had them specially made and he knew of one other red one in the whole United States. So it might be a thing where you have to call them and see. It's why I grabbed them right up when he showed them too me, they are just pretty and functional.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:20 PM   #43
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I threw on the EE braces and the package was labeled 07-12 so maybe the one's on their site would work. I could always get the raw ones and have them anno'd red locally.

At any rate I put those, a EE shark fin, and some HDB hand guards on tonight. Still debating what to do about a skid.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:19 AM   #44
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That was my decision too, I bought this bike to ride. It isn't an investment, just a toy financially speaking, so I decided to choose the one that felt best to ride. From all accounts it should last a while, but if I get 2 years of good riding out of it I'll be happy.
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