|01-19-2013, 06:15 PM||#16|
Joined: Nov 2010
Location: Erie, PA
|01-21-2013, 09:46 PM||#17|
Joined: Jul 2011
Location: Bucks, PA
::::BIAS ALERT:::: I own a 2007 Buell Ulysses, but have ridden the 1150r and some of the other BMW products mainly 80's K bikes. I will do my best to be objective!
I am 6'1'' and have no problems getting and staying comfortable on the Mule, even after doing long hours in all sorts of conditions. I have not had any issues sourcing parts, and have often found them quite cheap. Maintenance/repairs have all been done by me so far and I am very early into my wrenching career. As far as I can tell there aren't many parts on the Uly that weren't utilized throughout the entire XB range.
Keeping in mind what you are looking to do (fishing trips and some jaunts around town and two up) I think you couldn't go wrong with the Buell. Plenty of room for luggage and the torque is excellent for getting from point to point extra legally! The turning radius can be a bit crude on the 07 and earlier years. I think the bike handles dirt very well for having 90/10 tires, and I have never had to turn back after getting into some rough stuff. If I wear buying again, I would push for an 08 as I think there were some important changes made, including the steering lock.
|01-22-2013, 05:29 AM||#18|
Lost In Place
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Way Out There.
XB12X and R1150R are both fine bikes. But they're very different.
(I own an '09 XB12X and previously owned an R1150GS).
Either will fit a 6+ footer comfortably. Either should be reasonably reliable as known "issues" are well documented. Belt and wheel bearing issues on the Buell are completely avoidable with a minor mod to the belt tensioner that can be done in about 15 minutes. Don't know of any way to avoid the driveshaft and final drive issues that will eventually befall the BMW.
Personally, I prefer the Buell.
1. Suspension Quality is altogether in another league.
2. Handling Quality and steering precision is likewise on another level.
3. Motor is more entertaining.
4. Weight is much lower (100lbs lower, which improves handling, braking, throttle response, ride quality etc.)
5. Comfort and ergonomics are as good or finer than the BMW. Passenger accomodations with stock backrest are superior to the BMW. Stock Buell seat works extremely well as is. You'll need a Corbin or Seargent to travel on the BMW.
6. Superior Fuel efficiency. 25-35% better.
7. Fewer maintenance requirements and lower maintenance costs.
8. Lower Parts costs.
9. Parts availability is a non-issue in this day and age of on-line suppliers.
10. Buell/Hepco-Becker luggage is as good or better than BMW's.
11. 17" Wheels front and rear provide a wider variety of quality tire options.
12. Gravel and loose surfaced roads are handled with aplomb by the finely suspended and well balanced Buell. (works waaaay better than you'd imagine with the street biased tires - chalk it up to excellent suspension action and Buell's clever chassis obsessions).
I could go on, but you get the idea. If you're a rider, I think you'd prefer the Buell.
|01-22-2013, 10:40 AM||#19|
Joined: Jan 2012
Don't have personal experience with either, but am a long time Harley rider, and tried really really hard to like the BMW GS enough to add one to my garage.
I like the relaxed nature of Harley V-Twin engines, with their low frequency vibrations (at least when rubber-mounted). I could not learn to live with the buzzy BMW boxer motor. Loved the motorcycle; hated the buzz. Tried 4 different BMWs, new to 10 years old, 0 miles to 50,000 miles. 1200 and 1150. They all had it. If you dislike buzzy motorcycles, the BMW boxer motor may not be your friend.
|01-22-2013, 11:01 AM||#20|
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Charlotte NC
So I own a 2002 BMW R1150R (The Gentlemanís bike) and a 2008 XB12XT (The Hooligan bike).
I am 6í1 and #250 and I can ride both bikes around town or long distance but there is a bid difference in between my bikes.
I consider the Buell to be my sport touring/long haul bike and the BMW as my commuter.
I have commuted, camped two up and toured on both bikes and this is how I see them.
The Buell XB12XT,
Same as an X just a little shorter and comes with luggage. I love that Buell, it is a sport bike, a pack mule, two up camper and grocery getter.
Why is the Buell not a good commuter?
Well for me it eats tires, key location is horrible, gas cap isnít connected, there isnít a center stand and the heat from the engine can be horrible at times.
Why does the Buell make a good long haul bike?
It starts with being comfortable, the upright seating position and the lower peg positions allow me to ride the thing all
day. Also you can way over pack it and with the luggage that came with the bike, you can haul just about everything
and the kitchen sink. I also like the touring windshield, heated grips and hand guards. I can ride it all year and just
about go anywhere except single track stuff. Not to mention all the little things like bungee hook connections and
multiple 12 volt outlets.
Once you live on a motorcycle little things make a big difference and when I commute I want thing accessible and that
is where the BMW comes in.
The R1150R is great for commuting because of little things like the key in the dash and a fuel cap that is connected to
the bike. I try not to get off of the bike when I re-fuel and I canít tell you how many times I have dropped the gas cap on
the Buell. Also my R1150R just doesnít seem to go through tires where the Buell does. It has a center stand and
heated grips. Also no heat from the engine, I hardly ever feel any heat coming from it.
Why do I think the BWM is not a good long haul bike?
Well for me it starts with the seating position, it is a really cramped bike. The pegs are really to high or the seat to
low. Whatever it is I find it really bugs me when I first ride it after riding the Buell. I eventually get use to it after a while
but eventually my knees start revolting.
The luggage is small and just not designed well. Next the center stand, it is great to have it but I drag that thing all the time and it is much worse two up camping or just loaded down.
Also I canít ride the R1150R no where near as fast as the Buell, I have really pushed both bike and the BMW just doesnít like it. The suspension on the Buell is a thousand times better.
I am sorry if this reads a little weird, I am at lunch and I just typed out my quick thoughts about both bikes.
The Blue Ridge Parkway ~ F800st!
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Three ABR Riders head west, 5800 miles and 15 states in 11 days!
Current(03 R1150R,75 BMW R90/6,08 Buell XB12XT,50 HD WL,75 HD Sportster)
|01-23-2013, 07:44 AM||#21|
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: Smithereens- or what's left of it
I'm with Lornce. Well put.
Our ride across the USA on a Ural Gear Up- http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781149
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