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Old 01-13-2013, 01:06 PM   #1
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How is the engine number associated with the VIN/registration?

I am replacing my crankcase which has the engine number engraved on it. Is there a legal connection between this and the VIN? Will I go to jail?
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:46 PM   #2
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It isn't. SOME vehicles share SOME or ALL commonality with VIN to engine numbers, only for the manufactureres convenience, but in the eyes of the law, they could give a rat's ass about the engine number. The number on the headstock of the frame is what's used for registration/titling. Nothing else.
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:22 PM   #3
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:27 PM   #4
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Just checked. Here in California both the frame and engine number are on the registration and title's of my 2 bikes. Don't know if it matters, I've never had anyone check to see if the numbers and paperwork match.

Several years ago I was standing in line at the DMV and overheard the lady tell a customer that all Harley's had to have the numbers verified by the Highway Patrol due to the theft problem. Don't know if that's still true or if it was true back then.
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Just checked. Here in California both the frame and engine number are on the registration and title's of my 2 bikes. Don't know if it matters, I've never had anyone check to see if the numbers and paperwork match.

Several years ago I was standing in line at the DMV and overheard the lady tell a customer that all Harley's had to have the numbers verified by the Highway Patrol due to the theft problem. Don't know if that's still true or if it was true back then.
It could be that they want to see if the number's been tampered with or re-stamped. H-D had for years used stamps with an unusual font that was very difficult to fake and easy to detect when it was tampered with. Old H-Ds didn't have frame numbers, just engine numbers.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:23 PM   #6
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If you are worried about it go to good old Harbor Freight and pick up some stamps and restamp the numbers.
But no one will ever know most likely.
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His profile says BC. Who knows what laws they have...
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:23 PM   #8
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It's messed up here. Stay out if you can.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:09 AM   #9
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It's messed up here. Stay out if you can.
Maybe messed up but the ICBC regulations are all online. Nothing here that applies to engine swaps between same size/type engines.....yet!!!! That's commonly done.In case of doubt, they do have a phone number altough a good agent may be able to get the info quicker.

15 (1) If a change is made in a motor vehicle registered under this Act by

(a) replacing the chassis by another,

(b) replacing the body by another,

(c) changing the type of the motor vehicle for another;

(d) changing the style or colour of the body, or

(e) changing the type of fuel system,

the owner of the motor vehicle must immediately deliver to the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia a notice in writing stating the nature of the change and other particulars the corporation requires.
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If you are worried about it go to good old Harbor Freight and pick up some stamps and restamp the numbers.
But no one will ever know most likely.
I don't know about SC, but most everywhere it's a felony to tamper with VIN numbers. Just sayin'.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:38 AM   #11
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I have a 1978 CT90/trail 90 with matching frame and engine numbers. My understanding this is a rare occurance for Hondas of this vintage. It also appears that it was built the first or second day of the 1978 production year.
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