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Old 03-09-2012, 09:21 PM   #1
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Ultimate 4 Corners- Return from deployment trip

I've got 5 months left in Afghanistan, and with that time I'm using my free time to plan my ultimate bucket list trip-- since I won't be back in time for Sturgis, I'm going to do my own ultimate 4 corners ride:

Start: Dayton OH (Mid August)
Waypoint 1: Rapid City, SD
Waypoint 2: Beginning of the gravel @Dalton hwy, AK
Waypoint 3: Los Angeles, CA by way of PCH
Waypoint 4: Key West, FL
Waypoint 5: James Bay, QC, Canada
End: Back in Ohio

Est mileage: 14,680

My goal is to reach the highest points in Eastern and Western North America on paved road (Dalton and James Bay) and include the usual Southern points of a 4 corners ride.

In meeting up w/ friends and family along the way, I'm allocating around 45 days for the trip (must stop and smell the roses). I'm going to camp most of it outside of metropolitan areas, and be solo for most of it (have some fellow riders who might join up for a day or two.

My steed, though many might naysay, is a 2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra. I put 60,000 hard miles on my last Harley and it took me through 48 States worry-free.

I'm looking for advice, experience, etc for this adventure-- those who have done portions of it, what to see, what to expect, whatever! I've got 5 more sandy months in Afghanistan to plan this awesome adventure.

This will be my longest trip, but not my first long trip by a long shot.
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:57 AM   #2
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I'm not sure that 45 days will be enough, but it'll be fun.

I'm going to move this to Trip Planning where you'll get a little more help.

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Old 03-10-2012, 06:47 AM   #3
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I see this is your first post, so welcome to ADVrider!

Nothing like dreaming of your next ride to make the days go by. Should be fun. Your question is too big for a short answer, but if you're traveling through northern Nebraska you are welcome to stop by for a free meal and place to stay. 45 days isn't long to see North America, but hopefully you'll catch some highlights and meet some friendly folks along the way.

Best luck!

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Old 03-10-2012, 07:07 AM   #4
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Much appreciated! At this point, I'm looking for folks who've done portions of the trips with tips. PCH, FL, etc isn't much of problem, and I've been through Southern Alaska before, but Northern Quebec and Alaska is uncharted territory for me.

I might be able to extend out to 60 days, but it's a matter of how much leave I'll be able to pull.
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:43 AM   #5
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You shouldn't have problems with the James Bay portion of your trip. Some notes:

If you plan on going to the bay proper, be advised that there is a poorly maintained (lots of plow chatter and potholes) gravel road to get there- about 2-3 miles worth. I did the JBR in the summer of '10- we had two Goldwings with us, and they made it to the bay, so it should be more than doable on the Harley.

Most folks from Quebec are capable of understanding English, even if they can't speak it well. Important communication (my bike blew up, I need a beer, etc.) won't be a problem. The majority of Cree people speak perfect English.

There's a decent span of distance between gas stations in Matagami and the km 381 checkpoint, about 240 miles, so you might have to calibrate your wrist according to your tank size. Do not insult the gas boy by asking for octane ratings out of their only pump.

The JBR is rough in some spots, but those spots are clearly marked, and the other lane is usually less bumpy in those areas. Use the whole road if your ass is sore.

The food at Auberge Radisson is amazing.

Get a power plant tour in Radisson, or at least have a Hydro-Quebec employee run you over to the spillway. The size and scope of that project is incredible.

The placards for the attractions marked by the question mark signs are printed only in Cree and French. Skip them, but see the sights if you wish.

The scenery gets boring, really fast. Spruce and jack pine as far as the eye can see, or areas decimated by forest fires. Very little else. Get your singing voice handy.

Stay safe over there.
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:18 PM   #6
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Teddy- thanks for the info. I was comtemplating just getting to Radisson, depending on the road conditions.. but if the road to the bay is passable, I'll def get out there.

As far as Northern Quebec, luckily I speak passable French :)
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:25 PM   #7
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Survived the deployment- starting real planning for the trip to happen spring/summer 2014.

Revised route:

Houston, TX
San Diego
Deadhorse (purhoe bay)
James Bay (Radisson)
Key West
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:37 PM   #8
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Congrats and Thank You for your service.

Ride safe.

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Old 01-25-2013, 03:09 PM   #9
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Keep me in mind for Houston, I'll give ya a shower, good homecooked meal, and 2 military guys can split a 6 pack!
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