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Old 04-03-2015, 09:40 PM   #1
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Christini AWD's

Anyone tried these ?
http://christini.com.au/

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Old 04-03-2015, 10:17 PM   #2
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There's a thread over in thumpers about them, I'd love to have a go.
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Old 04-04-2015, 12:11 AM   #3
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Anyone tried these ?
http://christini.com.au/

Hi John

I have owned a Christini 450 DS All wheel drive for nearly 2 years now. I geared mine down to 13/53 T to tackle the really shitty single track and as I am now 62 years old, not very fit, and have various other physical problems - I thought this bike would be good to explore old tracks with the confidence that I could get the bike out of places I shouldn't have been in the first place. I will change the gearing to 2 T below standard to 50T for a bit better road cruising speed of about 100 kph.

The bike has most options available fitted to it like Rekluse Z Pro auto clutch, Rekluse Left Hand Rear hand brake, FCR Cary, Power bomb header and Q4 exhaust, moose tubes, Concept Seat and a heap of guards and protection bits and all the necessary lights for NSW full rego. ADR's took a while but all now road registered and legal.

It still has a carby hesitation (bogging) at about 2-2300 rpm (just off idle) which is a bit annoying even though I have fitted a Power Bowl 2 and external mixture screw adjuster.

The Chinese engine is copy of the Honda CRF 450X on which 90% of the bike is based has been good so far and if I keep it long enough I might bore it out to 480 cc ?? and put a Stage 2 or 3 Honda cam and cylinder on it. Now problems with the engine or gearbox - only don < 2000 Km on the bush.

Bergdonk rode it a little bit last weekend and suggested that the stock suspension could do with an up grade to handle my heavy weight.
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Old 04-04-2015, 12:39 AM   #4
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Onya Moff.

Did the distributor do the adr stuff or was that your headache?

There is also quite along thread herein somewhere about the fitting of a christini system to a 950. I did read up on it out of curiosity.

While I've not even got close to one I like the concept but the factory models leave me a tad dubious which kind of sounds like your experience is proving out eh Moff. Money spent on suspension is usually a sound investment.

Think I'd go down the path of supplying a frame and getting it factory built if I decided I wanted to get one.
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Old 04-04-2015, 01:06 AM   #5
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Onya Moff.

Did the distributor do the adr stuff or was that your headache?

There is also quite along thread herein somewhere about the fitting of a christini system to a 950. I did read up on it out of curiosity.

While I've not even got close to one I like the concept but the factory models leave me a tad dubious which kind of sounds like your experience is proving out eh Moff. Money spent on suspension is usually a sound investment.

Think I'd go down the path of supplying a frame and getting it factory built if I decided I wanted to get one.
Hi Mouse

Jeff Gleeson, the then distributor and now the importer of Christini motorcycles did all the work for the ARD compliance on these bikes. It took him nearly a year to jump through all the Government requirements to get the compliance plates for these bikes but its all good now.

The KTM 950 front wheel conversion was (I think) a one off American experiment by Christini but not made available to the public.

Christini were originally supplying frame kits for early KTM's and Honda CRF 450X's but I think they were no longer being imported into Australia for the last year or so. Phone Jeff Gleeson on 0755642800 for an update if you like or email awd@christini.com.au
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:11 AM   #6
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Thanks Moff,
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Old 04-04-2015, 05:26 AM   #7
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950 was 1st done by CJ in the states

2nd co to do it was constantino eng.

Neither were shouldered by christini of my info is correct
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Old 04-04-2015, 01:56 PM   #8
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950 was 1st done by CJ in the states

2nd co to do it was constantino eng.

Neither were shouldered by christini of my info is correct
My mistake Pete

I remember seeing a lot of info on front wheel assisted bikes a couple of years ago and I assumed it was all Christini related.
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Old 04-04-2015, 06:13 PM   #9
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I know cj used christini hardware, wasn't aware of the other attempt tho so am unclear whose hardware they used.

And unless I am much mistaken there's one under build in qld tho that may be the one pete refers to, for a long while I thought it was being done for pete!
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DR Joe is in charge of the 2WD SM/SE hybrid in QLD which should be very interesting once it's finished. Custom rear subframe/fuel tank, ohlins and 2WD as modified by constantino eng

http://cosentinoengineering.com

My pockets don't run that deep!!!
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Old 04-05-2015, 12:30 AM   #11
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DR Joe is in charge of the 2WD SM/SE hybrid in QLD which should be very interesting once it's finished. Custom rear subframe/fuel tank, ohlins and 2WD as modified by constantino eng

http://cosentinoengineering.com

My pockets don't run that deep!!!
I had a good look at this bike today. Some beautiful engineering involved.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:13 AM   #12
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As in being built for dr joe or built by him?

Scary things at the best of times orphans, Hoover the dollars with slim chance of getting it back.

So, moff, is the drive system meeting your expectations? Kind of sounds like the bike itself comes up a bit short.
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Old 04-06-2015, 02:15 AM   #13
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As in being built for dr joe or built by him?

Scary things at the best of times orphans, Hoover the dollars with slim chance of getting it back.

So, moff, is the drive system meeting your expectations? Kind of sounds like the bike itself comes up a bit short.
The AWD system is good for me as less effort is required to attempt gnarly stuff giving me more confidence in situations where I would have second thoughts going on my Husaberg FE 570, even though this bike is a fairly trick one with similar Rekluse clutch and LHRB set up and heaps of other farkles on it. The Berg has better suspension than the stock Christini 450 and has EFI and at least 10 more RW Hp.

My main concern with the Christini ( besides the suspension needing an up grade for my large size) is the after market FCR Carby not being tuned properly for low rev situations - still bogging even after a Power Bowl 2 and an external fuel mixture adjustment screw have been fitted. I just haven't spent enough time on it or can find a local carby specialist to play around with it.

EFI is (or should be) available for the Christini 450 in Australia soon/now so I may go than way if the carby problem keeps pissing me off.

Other wise the bike is reliable and easy to ride for an old bloke and I know I can always get it home with out outside assistance.
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