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Old 01-16-2013, 11:03 AM   #16
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While I agree they are probably a 90% street 10% offoad or even 95% street 5% offroad, the guys at Michelin are pretty close to if not the top of the tire game. When we first saw the PR3's we thought is was a joke and now we sell PR3's 10 to 1 to any other sport touring tire.
What % were the Anakee II's?
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:06 AM   #17
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Seems much less agressive than the Anakee2
Wow. Maybe I should stock up on another couple of sets of the 2s if they are gonna go away. That's *not* a dual sport tire, if one of the 'sports' is off highway...
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:14 AM   #18
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What % were the Anakee II's?
80/20
I really don't like the A III. They look like a street tire. Hopefully the new Metzler won't be a disappointment. They say that they've increased offroad capacities...
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:48 AM   #19
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As promised pictures of the Anakee 3. First picture is of the rear tire 150/70/17 and the second is a side by side comparison of Anakee 3 on the left and Anakee 2 on the right.






The Tourance Next is due in about a week. Metzeler is calling it a 95% on 5% off road tire. Seems they are going to keep the original Tourance and replace the EXP. Biggest complaint we get from the EXP is the relatively short wear life. The Tourance Next is touted as having long life than the EXP.

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As promised pictures of the Anakee 3. First picture is of the rear tire 150/70/17 and the second is a side by side comparison of Anakee 3 on the left and Anakee 2 on the right.






The Tourance Next is due in about a week. Metzeler is calling it a 95% on 5% off road tire. Seems they are going to keep the original Tourance and replace the EXP. Biggest complaint we get from the EXP is the relatively short wear life. The Tourance Next is touted as having long life than the EXP.

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great pic tyvm!

What about the metzel karoo?
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:12 PM   #21
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Maybe the front won't cup as bad as the IIs.

Wonder if compounds have changed on the IIIs.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:18 PM   #22
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Maybe the front won't cup as bad as the IIs.

Wonder if compounds have changed on the IIIs.

From the sell sheet
  1. New silica tread compound yields even more mileage while offereng the best balance between grip and durability
  2. innovative tread patter inhibits wear patterns while evacuating water, dirt, and mud
  3. tire architecture engineered for easy maneuverability and precise handling
  4. excellent stability and rider feedback, thanks to a new high-rigidity casing
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:53 PM   #23
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New silica tread compound yields even more mileage while offering the best balance between grip and durability

This to me says they may have sacrificed some stickiness for mileage.

I like tossing it down in the corners and not worrying about loosing grip. So far the PR3 have really impressed me in this aspect. If I have to give up miles for that, so be it.

It will be interesting to hear what PR3 riders have to say after trying the A3s.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:28 PM   #24
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80/20
I really don't like the A III. They look like a street tire. Hopefully the new Metzler won't be a disappointment. They say that they've increased offroad capacities...
It seems odd that they've gone from an 80/20 to a 90/10 or 95/5 on a bike like the GS. I know that loads of people don't take theirs off road (I don't that often), but it would be nice to have the option without worrying about changing tyres.

When I asked my dealer about specifying a particular brand of tyre they said this isn't possible, and the bike will come with whatever BMW decide to fit.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:42 PM   #25
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Hmmmm. Wrong direction it seems. Bring on the Karoo3.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:00 PM   #26
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I think they look promising. I'll try a set this summer.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:48 PM   #27
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I think once you get to 95/5 rated tire, you might as well buy a dedicated street tire. It seems 5% off road is just a 5% handicap on the street. How good can it be in the dirt?
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:24 PM   #28
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I've run the PR3, a full set before, and most of a set of A2 (going back on shortly to finish them off).

The A3 is clearly a little more dirt/gravel based, with much wider grooves that should give you a bit more bite. The PR3 with sipes is unmatched for sealed roads IMHO, but is too soft in gravel and gets damaged by sharp stones. The tread pattern is tight, which offers little chance of bite... but it's a road tyre.

The A2 is brilliant on dry sealed road, reasonably good on wet seal and can do gravel, but when it gets muddy you're struggling for traction a bit. For those that do mostly road but want a bit of bite on gravel, it suffices.

Remember also the more road biased options get better fuel economy with lower rolling resistance. The TKC / K60 is around 0.5L / 100km worse than A2 / PR3. Ultimately, having lots of options isn't that bad, unless you're confused and have no idea what you want. I'll run a set to see how they compare to everything else.

Thanks for the PM Bill. I'm just getting a mate to see if NZ will be stocking them any time soon, otherwise I'll contact you.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:26 AM   #30
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I've found Michelin tires are over priced and lack good feedback. My 2013GSA came with Anakee 2's.

The rear seemed to work okay, but scalped and feathered a lot. The front did also, but the worst part was when I pushed it. The tire would go numb and just start to slide around. The only tires Michelin makes that haven't acted like a grease pencil, are the Power 1 Race. All the PR3's, PR 2's, Pilot Power, and PP Pure all lack good feed back and grip when pushed.

They cost more than other tires that give good mileage, grip and feedback. Bridgestone Battle Wings are my choice for the GSA. My 08 came with them and I've ran them ever since

Let's just say, I'm not impressed with funky tread designs for a cosmetic marketing strategy. I'm sure they work great in the rain, but, I live in CA

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