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Old 04-12-2015, 07:06 AM   #1
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99cc Fl to AK...oil?

HI, Getting ready to blast off on a long ride with my KE100. It has an oil injection pump and I intend to use it on the ride. Mixing oil/gas over the 11k plus miles would be a pain.

So, not debating that nor the ride......What oils can I use? Are all 2 stroke oils that I might find at the local station (wherever that may be) ok with the injection system?

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Old 04-12-2015, 07:44 AM   #2
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I would suggest starting your trip with a full oil tank, and bringing at least one more quart of the same schtuff with you. I'd also check out yer local auto parts and hardware national chains to see what they carry, and call their stores along your projected route - just in case. Most motorcycle dealerships and aftermarket shops will have good stuff to sell ya. Call them, too.... the internet is yer friend here. Bring along an extra sparky-plug, and a few if yer gonna be changing altitudes.... you'll run richer in thinner air.

One never knows what kinda 2-T oil you'll find on the road, when ya NEED it. Make sure it's an 'injector' oil. Even then, some oils don't mix well with each other, due to base stock and/or additives. Good luck.
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Old 04-12-2015, 12:41 PM   #3
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Duck pilots advice is sound, fill the tank and cary some with you once you use all the spare oil topping up the oil tank start looking for oil from that moment on.
I always stick to one type/brand based on long term use and clear reduced wear with that oil on several machines upon dismantling . If you take my approach you have to do a bit more planning in advance.
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Old 04-12-2015, 06:42 PM   #4
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Jaso fd

Low ash 2 cycle is best since your engine runs very very hot. The ash is a high temp lubricant. JASO FD is the latest standard as far as I know. JASO FC and FB are fine. Avoid ashless outboard if possible. Ignore words like synthetic or sem-isynthetic, etc. Since a court case a few years back almost any oil can be labeled synthetic regardless of the base oil used. So to cut the BS and marketing hype just look for JASO-FD on the back of the quart.

My KE-100 only has 3000 miles so far, but no worries thus far either.

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Old 04-12-2015, 06:48 PM   #5
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300 miles

Oh btw. My KE-100 has consistently run over 300 miles per tank of 2T at cruise speeds between 35 and 50 mph. I use the autolube with the sync mark at the standard position. So If you leave home with the tank full and carry a spare quart you should be able to go 500 miles or so before you need to start looking for oil. I've has good luck with farm and fleet type stores and even some walmarts. If you go to wally the personal watercraft PWC oils are usually JASO-FC or better for air cooled engines. Wally will always have outboard 2 cycle, but that is less than ideal.


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Low ash 2 cycle is best since your engine runs very very hot. The ash is a high temp lubricant. JASO FD is the latest standard as far as I know. JASO FC and FB are fine. Avoid ashless outboard if possible. Ignore words like synthetic or sem-isynthetic, etc. Since a court case a few years back almost any oil can be labeled synthetic regardless of the base oil used. So to cut the BS and marketing hype just look for JASO-FD on the back of the quart.

My KE-100 only has 3000 miles so far, but no worries thus far either.

Enjoy.
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Old 04-12-2015, 08:48 PM   #6
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Out here in the hinterlands of the Alaska Range, 2 stroke lube is available. At our local Chevron or the Car Quest/Polaris shop in Healy. For what its worth, i have seen regular motor oil used in a pinch in both cycles and snowmobiles in a pinch. Prolonged use might result in some kind of damage (stuck rings) but in the instances I know of, no detrimental effect. Not ideal but better than lunching your engine.

If you get to Denali, stop in and see me. I'd like to meet the man who rides a little Kawasaki 2 stroke across the continent.

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Old 04-13-2015, 03:45 AM   #7
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Honest, don't bother trying to find high quality or synthetic two stroke oil. The KEs are a design from the early 70s, before any of that stuff was available for the race bikes.

At home, I use the cheap Walmart stuff in the gallon bottle.

On my distance trips, I start with a full tank and carry two 8oz bottles in my backpack or milk crate. I check the two stroke tank every fill and empty my 8oz bottles first. When my supply is low, I pick up what ever the gas stations have. Usually I'm able to find a quart bottle, which is able to fill the tank and refill the 8oz bottles.

I tried the expensive oils at first, but had several people tell me to use the cheap stuff with the bike's old design. It does feel better running the cheap stuff and I'm well over 6000 miles since I purchased mine.
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