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Old 01-20-2013, 06:55 AM   #1
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Hi i normally hanf out on the oil head site but I've got an old R 75/5 that I once upon a time converted to a single disc front brake an improvement fron the old drum.
But by todays standard they suck big time, it's a stainless disc and its not very "grippy".
there's definitely no need for ABS
Goods ideas will be implemented.
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:48 AM   #2
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Bar mounted MC and braided stainless hose made an enormous difference on my bike. When I did it I thought it would help, but it went so far beyond my expectations, I could scarcely exaggerate. I started a thread on it maybe 2 years ago. Check it out.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:45 AM   #3
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^ the above seems to be consensus from what I read......


I found that using grippy pads made a huge difference... look for HH from EBC, which I used and really liked....I had a single-disk front end with bar m/c and ss, but it improved mightily with the HH's....

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Old 01-20-2013, 11:01 AM   #4
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^ the above seems to be consensus from what I read......


I found that using grippy pads made a huge difference... look for HH from EBC, which I used and really liked....I had a single-disk front end with bar m/c and ss, but it improved mightily with the HH's....

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Sintered, or HH pads by EBC, or other quality manufactures can make an enormous difference. I have for decades ridden race bikes with iron rotors, and can't tell the difference between them, and stainless, when using HH pads!
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:05 PM   #5
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:11 PM   #6
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The only EBC pad I have found for my airhead ATE swing caliper was the EBC Organic Kevlar Brake Pads FA22. Using the EBC website, I cannot figure out the EBC HH part number - or if they even make a HH pad for the ATE caliper . Is there a part number for HH scintered pads with an ATE caliper - or is replacing the caliper needed?
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:31 PM   #7
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What does HH stand for?
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:36 PM   #8
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Green galfer if they make them. Good stuff
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:41 PM   #9
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Any links to where the suggested brake pads can be purchased?
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:10 PM   #10
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I found the cyclebrakes.com website sells and has catalogs for the Galfer and EBC brakes. Per the cyclebrakes.com website, the EBC brake pads do not have a clear cross reference to Galfer and have no FA22 pad in HH material. The Galfer catalogs shows my '78 airhead w/ATE calipers and stainless disc uses the pad # D233-1. So, I emailed cyclebrakes.com to ask if they sell the D233-1 pads in green or HH pad material.

I replaced my stock rotor with an EBC and the EBC kevlar pads. The braking was about the same as stock; no worries on locking the front tire! The ATE pivot caliper w/stainless rotor and kevlar pads are marginal. Short of swapping the forks for Brembo calipers, I am willing to try some green or HH Galfer pads and the EBC rotor. On I go with my personal 'Don Quixote' style adventure for decent ATE single caliper brakes.

Edit: upon another examination of the Galfer catalog, the D233-1 part number is for a brake line, not pads. There are no airhead 74-80 brake pads made by Galfer listed in their catalog. It looks like different forks with Brembo calipers may be needed. Maybe cyclebrakes.com will have more information.

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:50 PM   #11
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I ran EBC HH Sintergrip on both my old Ducatis, for street and track (SS rotors). Great results wet or dry.
But....
Tried them on the R 80 ST when I went to a EBC Prolite front rotor with lackluster results. Switched pads immediately to Galfer Greens and basically got two finger braking with good modulation and no fade - same as on my F 650 which runs the Greens.

Like lots of folks on here and other forums, cyclebrakes.com is my go-to brake supplier. Call on the phone and talk with the owner or her assistant rather than use the website. They both know a boatload of brake info.

For the question about what the HH means - IIRC, pads are rated by initial bite then steady grip, or either grip then fade resistance. Been a long time since I looked it up. And if I recall correctly HH are the highest rating, but don't hold me to that. Also, note that as stated above HH sintered pads weren't the best in all applications.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:36 PM   #12
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For the question about what the HH means - IIRC, pads are rated by initial bite then steady grip, or either grip then fade resistance. Been a long time since I looked it up. And if I recall correctly HH are the highest rating, but don't hold me to that. Also, note that as stated above HH sintered pads weren't the best in all applications.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:04 PM   #13
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PM Sent. We stock the EBC Semi Sintered pad in a FA22.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:05 PM   #14
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:03 AM   #15
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On my dual disc 38mm R90/6, it was the smaller sized handlebar MC that really made the differeance, playing around with discs/pads may help but won't deal with the main issue: BMW got the ratios between the handlebar MC and the slave cylinders wrong. Going from a stock 17mm MC to a 13mm Mc gave me brakes that were almost as good as the brakes on my Brembo equipped 82, brakes with a greatly increased lever travel give both control and power.
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