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Old 01-22-2013, 01:48 PM   #46
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I've had this problem as well.
Me too. But in a WR250R and at its max speed on dirt. Had to duck at times, reduce the wind drag, makes a difference to keep up with Husky on the straights.

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Old 01-22-2013, 01:53 PM   #47
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Me too. But in a WR250R and at its max speed on dirt at about 65-70 mph. Had to duck at times, reduce the wind drag, makes a difference to keep up with Husky on the straights.

The 950 isn't running out of power like the WR it's running out traction.Pretty fun feeling the back tire light up at 105.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:44 PM   #48
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Slight High Jack here...

I understand theres LOTS of variables, I know gravel and dirt types well enough I feel to judge them by look and "feel"...

What scenarios likely require MORE throttle?

I recently got a Big Pig, Yam. S10, so Forest Service roads is about the extent of My dirt riding nowadays. in my Youth I used to run sandpits and trails on 125-250 class bikes.. but never at breakneck speeds.
So this Big critter has Me a bit cautious. I did some roads on the northrim of the Grand Canyon this year at about 35 with streetish tires and a full load and that felt pretty good. looking at some more agressive tires for this year and a trip up to the Dawson.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:48 PM   #49
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Slight High Jack here...

I understand theres LOTS of variables, I know gravel and dirt types well enough I feel to judge them by look and "feel"...

What scenarios likely require MORE throttle?
Any time you feel the front start to push.

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I recently got a Big Pig, Yam. S10, so Forest Service roads is about the extent of My dirt riding nowadays. in my Youth I used to run sandpits and trails on 125-250 class bikes.. but never at breakneck speeds.
So this Big critter has Me a bit cautious. I did some roads on the northrim of the Grand Canyon this year at about 35 with streetish tires and a full load and that felt pretty good. looking at some more agressive tires for this year and a trip up to the Dawson.
For gravel roads there's really no need for "aggressive" tires. Stay smooth on the bike, stay on the gas in the turns and it'll be 100% fine.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:58 PM   #50
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Any time you feel the front start to push.

For gravel roads there's really no need for "aggressive" tires. Stay smooth on the bike, stay on the gas in the turns and it'll be 100% fine.
That's the way I do it as well. Although I like the small bikes, the larger ones do very much all right.





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Old 01-22-2013, 04:58 PM   #51
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the 950 only goes about 100 to 110mph depending on surface before the wind resistance overcomes tire traction with scorpions or trail attacks.
I got roosted by a passing HP2 and a passing 950 when I was doing 85. That is pretty humbling.

To add insult to injury both of the bastards were running heated hand grips while I was
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:05 PM   #52
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Depending on the area, I'm getting 70 to 80mph on the straight aways. With 12 inches of travel I'm not at all worried about pot holes. Deer and cows on the other hand . I am much, much slower when riding in areas where I cant see a good long distance off to the sides of the roads like when the corn fields are planted, I will typically run 40 or less you never know what is going to come out there. If its a open flat field & I can see across it, the only thing that slows me down is the rev limiter...
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:18 PM   #53
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I got roosted by a passing HP2 and a passing 950 when I was doing 85. That is pretty humbling.

To add insult to injury both of the bastards were running heated hand grips while I was
I ran the 950 at the shen 500 one year with a teraflex



Was passing 3 guys on smaller bikes when i got the the last one i needed to pass he wicked it up hard and dragged him to the corner I could hear that teraflex winging baseball sized rocks out the back. His friends didn't seem to ammused with his choice to drag me :)

I passed 2 people in the air over the water bars.

And entirely too fast in one part of the ride... The teraflex solves the traction problem for the speed, but its terrifying in the turns have to steer with the rear on dirt or pavement.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:18 PM   #54
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I ran the 950 at the shen 500 one year with a teraflex



Was passing 3 guys on smaller bikes when i got the the last one i needed to pass he wicked it up hard and dragged him to the corner I could hear that teraflex winging baseball sized rocks out the back. His friends didn't seem to ammused with his choice to drag me :)

I passed 2 people in the air over the water bars.

And entirely too fast in one part of the ride... The teraflex solves the traction problem for the speed, but its terrifying in the turns have to steer with the rear on dirt or pavement.
500 mile tire?
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500 mile tire?
I'd rate it a 1000 mile tire, pretty good traction off road seriously scary on the street. They drift everywhere on pavement.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:30 PM   #56
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I'd rate it a 1000 mile tire, pretty good traction off road seriously scary on the street. They drift everywhere on pavement.
Pretty good then, for a 950 that is.
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I feel like a chinmey with all this 100 mph smoke blowing up my ass.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:44 PM   #58
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I hope you saw the kph in my post....that's not smoke, just a bit of mist.
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Ok glad to see the bike world is a bit more lax about individuals in the group which is understandable , with jeeps you are responsible for the jeep behind you . We try to keep the jeep behind us in the rear view and try not to lose sight of them for more than a minute or so . That way is something happens the group will stop with in a minute or so to help out since we have quite a few EMT/FF in our group . Ive personally had a group of 12 jeeps escort me 26 miles to camp when I smoked my transmission once and couldnt get out of 2nd gear . My best friend went with a group of different people and the guy infront of him rolled and got hung in a tree , he had 2 kids in the jeep strapped in so 3 people hanging 45* upside down and a frantic wife that had got out to video it . They couldnt risk getting out because if the jeep slipped off the tree it could crush them so there they hung for 30 minutes before the group noticed the 2 jeeps missing and came back , then another 45 minutes of recovery involving 4 winches and 6 vehicles . My best friend no will not go wheeling with out our group or some we partner with .

Most of the gravel roads I run are curvy and wood line and some are single lane so you dont worry about me pushing it too hard plus I dont want to deal with my wife if I faceplant again Thanks again for yalls input .
Where are there roads at? I've been looking for those type of roads since I got my XR. Please be near King, NC!
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Where are there roads at? I've been looking for those type of roads since I got my XR. Please be near King, NC!
Im in Va between 85 and 95 on the state line but Im working on mapping out a route from Va beach area to the BRP thats going to be backroads with as much dirt and gravel as possible so my goal isnt to far from you . I drive 125 to 450 miles in southern va a day at work so I keep a map book beside me and mark any possible dirt routes that I may can use then I return on the bike when I get time to check them out . Which your not far from Uwharrie .....
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