ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Orange Crush
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-26-2013, 11:29 PM   #1
robdogg OP
turnip truck driver
 
robdogg's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Location: wren-tonne, WA
Oddometer: 1,700
Leo Vince LV One or FMF Q4?

These two seem pretty even on price/function. They both come with spark arrestors.. which is a must for me, and both are around $550 or so.. which is way less then the all the other brands.. but I think I have read about people having to futz around with the LV's.. either with the mounts, or with fitting on the headers?? or is that some other brand that has that issue? I guess both have fairly frequent repacking needs since they are straight through design?

personally I think the LV is a little more pleasing to the eye.. but that is last on my list, I'm happy as long as they don't look uglier then the stock cans.. heh

any other tips, advise to help me decide?

oh, and a 2010 990A would be the recipient
__________________
"ride hard, live righteously"
John 5:24

CMA Fast Lane Forums
robdogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2013, 12:56 AM   #2
T-Mac
orange
 
T-Mac's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
Oddometer: 42
I had the LVs and loved them.
__________________
KTM 990 S Adventure
T-Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2013, 04:20 AM   #3
DeepInIt
Beastly Adventurer
 
DeepInIt's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2006
Location: Cordoba, Argentina
Oddometer: 1,365
My LV has done a lot of miles. My only complaint is the mounting system if you will be seriously offroading. The combination of a lot of weight behind the mount point and a wrap around band hanger allows things to loosen up in hard riding. One part of the assembly is a press fit. I only have had problems after 40K but... Best is a welded mount point that keeps the can secure in all directions.
DeepInIt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 04:48 PM   #4
Off Road Ryder
Beastly Adventurer
 
Off Road Ryder's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Kent Wa
Oddometer: 2,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeepInIt View Post
My LV has done a lot of miles. My only complaint is the mounting system if you will be seriously offroading. The combination of a lot of weight behind the mount point and a wrap around band hanger allows things to loosen up in hard riding. One part of the assembly is a press fit. I only have had problems after 40K but... Best is a welded mount point that keeps the can secure in all directions.
I have had lots of issues with the Leo joint. Nice pipe and I really like the Spark arrestor. The pipes been welded and still comes lose after a good ride. Anyone found a better solution to this issue? Based on the mount I would go another direction next time.
__________________
When Quality matters,Its all about choices.
Cyclops Performance LED Vendors thread
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839163
www.cyclopsadventuresports.com
1-800-624-0278
Off Road Ryder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 07:22 PM   #5
robdogg OP
turnip truck driver
 
robdogg's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Location: wren-tonne, WA
Oddometer: 1,700
good feedback.. thank you very much.. while I won't be racing my 990a offroad, I do like riding some pretty rough terrain..

FMF it is.. I had them on my 950, and never had a problem..

__________________
"ride hard, live righteously"
John 5:24

CMA Fast Lane Forums
robdogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 07:29 PM   #6
KTMADV
Hammer Down
 
KTMADV's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Willows Ca
Oddometer: 166
I have a 2 into 1 with a FMF Q4 and have never had any problems with the pipe. I aslo like the way the pipe has the mount welded to the pipe. Very strong and looks good.
__________________
Ceasar Vasquez
KTMADV is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 11:42 PM   #7
robdogg OP
turnip truck driver
 
robdogg's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Location: wren-tonne, WA
Oddometer: 1,700
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTMADV View Post
I have a 2 into 1 with a FMF Q4 and have never had any problems with the pipe. I aslo like the way the pipe has the mount welded to the pipe. Very strong and looks good.
that's a fantastic idea.. thanks.. and I see advtank is selling the 2:1 with an FMF Q4 for $400. seems like a great way to go..
__________________
"ride hard, live righteously"
John 5:24

CMA Fast Lane Forums
robdogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 05:20 AM   #8
KTMADV
Hammer Down
 
KTMADV's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Willows Ca
Oddometer: 166
If you wanted to save money you can make your stock mid pipe into 2 into 1. Thats what I did
__________________
Ceasar Vasquez
KTMADV is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 06:17 AM   #9
robdogg OP
turnip truck driver
 
robdogg's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Location: wren-tonne, WA
Oddometer: 1,700
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTMADV View Post
If you wanted to save money you can make your stock mid pipe into 2 into 1. Thats what I did
how would I do that? I don't have a welder, but if I did, got any plans or a how to write up?
__________________
"ride hard, live righteously"
John 5:24

CMA Fast Lane Forums
robdogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 07:07 AM   #10
KTMADV
Hammer Down
 
KTMADV's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Willows Ca
Oddometer: 166
You could tig weld it. Take it to a shop. Dont use a wire welder. Here is a pic of mine. My friends shop only charge $75.

__________________
Ceasar Vasquez
KTMADV is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 08:01 AM   #11
Off Road Ryder
Beastly Adventurer
 
Off Road Ryder's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Kent Wa
Oddometer: 2,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by robdogg View Post
how would I do that? I don't have a welder, but if I did, got any plans or a how to write up?
I took mine to a local Auburn Wa Muffler shop who makes custom headers. Cost was 50.00 a single pipe is nice.
__________________
When Quality matters,Its all about choices.
Cyclops Performance LED Vendors thread
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839163
www.cyclopsadventuresports.com
1-800-624-0278
Off Road Ryder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 09:06 AM   #12
robdogg OP
turnip truck driver
 
robdogg's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Location: wren-tonne, WA
Oddometer: 1,700
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops Motorsports View Post
I took mine to a local Auburn Wa Muffler shop who makes custom headers. Cost was 50.00 a single pipe is nice.
could you PM me the shop info please? I have a welding shop that has done some stuff for me, but I'd prefer folks that have experience with exhaust, particularly bikes.
__________________
"ride hard, live righteously"
John 5:24

CMA Fast Lane Forums
robdogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 09:48 PM   #13
gweaver
Wandering between rooms
 
gweaver's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Oddometer: 1,462
For those that did a 2-1 what pipe did you use? I've been trying to find something compatible with the 950, but most of the single pipes sold are dirt bike sized, and won't flow enough exhaust.
Alternately, is there a reason a slip-on for a liter bike wouldn't work? If an engine is just a big air pump, and given that the 950 is similar in displacement to a liter bike, any reason not to go that route? Ignore the mid-pipe and mount differences- shouldn't be too hard to have a mid-pipe made to fit, and use an exhaust hanger strap to get the placement right.
A quick search on-line shows a Ti Yoshi pipe for a CBR 1000 for $450. Not bad, and a fair bit less expensive than the Remus/Akra/Wings option.
Thoughts?
FWIW, I'm currently running a 2-1 with an FMF Powercore, but I think the pipe's too restrictive. I had the carb jetted, but the mileage is pretty bad: 25 mpg. Based on what I've read here, I should be able to get closer to 35 with a 2-1 and well-tuned carb. Just need to find the right pipe/jet combination. What's your secret?
G
__________________
I just twist and my eyes glaze over, "uh....errr huh huh, weeeeoooooh---doo dat agin, doo dat agin..." -morriswf

I like my women like I like my instant oatmeal- quick, easy, and covered in facts about dinosaurs.
gweaver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 10:02 PM   #14
KTMADV
Hammer Down
 
KTMADV's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Location: Willows Ca
Oddometer: 166
Your bike should be getting better fuel milage. Here is what Iam running. Here is the link.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839023
__________________
Ceasar Vasquez
KTMADV is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 10:15 PM   #15
corndog67
Banned
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Oddometer: 1,281
I was having issues getting someone to sell me a pipe. They all quoted some new law that could take their license if I put the pipe on a street bike in CA. Finally, I called Leo Vince and talked to a real nice lady there, that said she'd sell me a pipe, and they happened to be having a clearance sale, and they also had a set of test mule pipes with dyno time on them, but no street miles. For $180. I told her I'd call back in 2 days, which I did. Well, she didn't work there any more. But someone else went to look for the pipes, but couldn't find them. So he sold me a set of new ones for $180. I almost came. Perfect fit. Fairly easy install. No leaks. They are straight (I've heard of people having stuff sitting a little crooked after the install). And it's real fuckin' loud. There was only 1 decibel killier in the set of mufflers, so I removed it in the interest of being the same on both sides. Yeah, that's it.

Leo Vince people told me that the dealers were overreacting to the new law, that it affected only 2013 bikes and any built after that.

Very cool people to work with and talk to.
corndog67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 11:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014