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Old 01-29-2013, 08:22 AM   #1
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The Lesser Prairie Chicken...Really?

I'd have to laugh if it wasn't so sad and pathetic. I'm sure some of you have seen the COHVCO announcement about the discussion of the lesser prairie chicken and possible impact on off roading. Anyone ever think that the term "lesser" might mean the bird is a weak, fading species that is disappearing because of genetic disability? OK...I'm being flippant on that point, but WTF...if it ain't a prairie chicken it's a snail, a worm, a minnow, or some other desperately critical animal issue that should bring human activity to a grinding halt.

More seriously, from the sound of the announcement, it appears that these birds would inhabit the flatter, eastern parts of CO. Does that seem right? I've been riding for decades in the areas west of I-25, but are there many riding and/or OHV areas in the eastern part?

Edit: Oh...just wanted to make sure that no one confuses the "Prairie Chicken" with "Prairie Rider"...LOL!

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Old 01-29-2013, 09:24 AM   #2
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Yes, really.

Ecosystems are delicate and complex things. It is not always immediately
apparent how important various creatures are, and sometimes the importance
of a creature is not understood until it is too late. At such times cascading failure
of an ecosystem can occur and the result can be a real disaster. Just because
you may not agree with such concepts doesn't mean it is therefore of little or no
consequence to damage the habitat of the lesser prarie chicken.


Humans are by far the most profligate destroyer of the earth. Animals do not destroy
the earth, they live in coexistence and do not damage the earth unless their
populations grow to excessive numbers, at which time there is usually a die-off
due to over use of resources, and the balance returns to the system.


Someone has to stop the humans who would carelessly destroy the country where various wild
things live, and that is why we have governing bodies like the EPA and
the Department of the Interior. Those bodies ( like all government bodies and all
humans for that matter ) make mistakes from time to time, but on the whole the US
is a significantly healthier place since the EPA came into existence.


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Old 01-29-2013, 09:34 AM   #3
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:36 AM   #4
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Ecosystems are delicate and complex things. It is not always immediately
apparent how important various creatures are, and sometimes the importance
of a creature is not understood until it is too late. At such times cascading failure
of an ecosystem can occur and the result can be a real disaster. Just because
you may not agree with such concepts doesn't mean it is therefore of little or no
consequence to damage the habitat of the lesser prarie chicken.


Humans are by far the most profligate destroyer of the earth. Animals do not destroy
the earth, they live in coexistence and do not damage the earth unless their
populations grow to excessive numbers, at which time there is usually a die-off
due to over use of resources, and the balance returns to the system.


Someone has to stop the humans who would carelessly destroy the country where various wild
things live, and that is why we have governing bodies like the EPA and
the Department of the Interior. Those bodies ( like all government bodies and all
humans for that matter ) make mistakes from time to time, but on the whole the US
is a significantly healthier place since the EPA came into existence.


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Old 01-29-2013, 09:42 AM   #5
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Dude...you don't know me or my concepts about the sanctity of the earth...especially based on my comment here. Though some of my commentary was obviously said in good humor, I think you may be the one who doesn't understand the concept of the agenda of driving out human activity at all costs from "any" public lands that some dim bulbs consistently display on the extreme green side of the fence. There are plenty of us "in the middle" who understand the value and need of protecting our environment while still being able to enjoy it. Many aggressive environmentalists try to represent EVERY motorized activity in the off road environment as a kind of "Sherman's March", slash and burn attack, and that's BS, plain and simple. There is no middle ground for many of these folks, and that's what we have to be on guard against. If you think the primary goal of our current EPA is to be fair, logical, and realistic in its duties toward us as off roaders, you need to wake up. Unfortunately many of these departments have become political agenda tools rather than what their original job descriptions were intended.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:41 AM   #7
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Dude...you don't know me or my concepts about the sanctity of the earth...especially based on my comment here.
you just crossed the most profligate destroyer of threads in Rockies
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:22 AM   #9
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Full frontal assaults get OHV groups and others riled up to the point where it's harder to pass the desired anti-human (motorized) restrictive laws. Thus, the secondary tactic is to kill them with endless meetings for seemingly insignificant issues.

What do they call it? Death by a thousand cuts?


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Old 01-29-2013, 11:24 AM   #10
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I am guessing you don't drive a car and instead decide to walk everywhere. I am also guess you might even live in a house built with industrial products vs. bamboo and leaves. I could be wrong...but being as you are typing on a forum with a computer built with industrial products and corresponding poisons....just saying.





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Ecosystems are delicate and complex things. It is not always immediately
apparent how important various creatures are, and sometimes the importance
of a creature is not understood until it is too late. At such times cascading failure
of an ecosystem can occur and the result can be a real disaster. Just because
you may not agree with such concepts doesn't mean it is therefore of little or no
consequence to damage the habitat of the lesser prarie chicken.


Humans are by far the most profligate destroyer of the earth. Animals do not destroy
the earth, they live in coexistence and do not damage the earth unless their
populations grow to excessive numbers, at which time there is usually a die-off
due to over use of resources, and the balance returns to the system.


Someone has to stop the humans who would carelessly destroy the country where various wild
things live, and that is why we have governing bodies like the EPA and
the Department of the Interior. Those bodies ( like all government bodies and all
humans for that matter ) make mistakes from time to time, but on the whole the US
is a significantly healthier place since the EPA came into existence.


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you just crossed the most profligate destroyer of threads in Rockies
ok....the second most profligate destroyer of threads....after Meterpig


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Ecosystems are delicate and complex things. It is not always immediately
apparent how important various creatures are, and sometimes the importance
of a creature is not understood until it is too late. At such times cascading failure
of an ecosystem can occur and the result can be a real disaster. Just because
you may not agree with such concepts doesn't mean it is therefore of little or no
consequence to damage the habitat of the lesser prarie chicken.


Humans are by far the most profligate destroyer of the earth. Animals do not destroy
the earth, they live in coexistence and do not damage the earth unless their
populations grow to excessive numbers, at which time there is usually a die-off
due to over use of resources, and the balance returns to the system.


Someone has to stop the humans who would carelessly destroy the country where various wild
things live, and that is why we have governing bodies like the EPA and
the Department of the Interior. Those bodies ( like all government bodies and all
humans for that matter ) make mistakes from time to time, but on the whole the US
is a significantly healthier place since the EPA came into existence.


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ok....the second most profligate destroyer of threads....after Meterpig


but keep trying!
Quoting your own post is waaaaay against the rulz.
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Quoting your own post is waaaaay against the rulz.
It's not in the rules....but I can certainly quote other people if you prefer.
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