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Old 01-29-2013, 04:36 PM   #16
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:38 PM   #17
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:40 PM   #18
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:41 PM   #19
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:48 PM   #20
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:29 PM   #21
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Ecosystems are delicate and complex things. It is not always immediately
apparent how important various creatures are, and sometimes the importance
of a creature is not understood until it is too late. At such times cascading failure
of an ecosystem can occur and the result can be a real disaster. Just because
you may not agree with such concepts doesn't mean it is therefore of little or no
consequence to damage the habitat of the lesser prarie chicken.


Humans are by far the most profligate destroyer of the earth. Animals do not destroy
the earth, they live in coexistence and do not damage the earth unless their
populations grow to excessive numbers, at which time there is usually a die-off
due to over use of resources, and the balance returns to the system.


Someone has to stop the humans who would carelessly destroy the country where various wild
things live, and that is why we have governing bodies like the EPA and
the Department of the Interior. Those bodies ( like all government bodies and all
humans for that matter ) make mistakes from time to time, but on the whole the US
is a significantly healthier place since the EPA came into existence.


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The guy is absolutely 100% correct. Humans are the number one alterers/destroyers of habitat discounting meteors.

Cats: There are no native small cats in the U.S. IMHO feral cats and house cats that are allowed outside should all be removed. The bullshit program various places have to spay and neuter feral cats and continue to allow them to live outdoors are awful on any number of levels. Where I lived in central coastal CA, at least two species have been hunted to extinction by feral cats and house cats. My ex took care of all the feral ones that were living in a small ecological reserve.

Like the Gunnison Sage Grouse, the Lesser Praire Chicken has been declining in numbers for years and in both cases it seems unlikely that listing of either species will have much affect on OHV activity...and if listing did affect OHV use, I don't have a problem providing undisturbed habitat for an endangered/threatened species.

Snail darter: do some research here. The Tellico dam failed because it was a financial boondoggle (see Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner). It had nothing to do with the snail darter and seems to be one of the most mis-used examples people use to complain about the Endangered Species Act.

I am not a fan of groups that abuse the ESA and that goes from both sides. I've seen environmental groups that continue to suck $$ from the program long after status of the animal in question should have been downgraded (condor, peregrine falcons, etc.). Then there are other groups who drain $$ available for species that need help by trying to make areas off limits using some lame reason...wilderness study areas in the San Rafael Swell come to mind.

This stuff touches a nerve with me...can ya tell?!
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:34 PM   #22
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:28 PM   #23
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The guy is absolutely 100% correct. Humans are the number one alterers/destroyers of habitat discounting meteors.

Cats: There are no native small cats in the U.S. IMHO feral cats and house cats that are allowed outside should all be removed. The bullshit program various places have to spay and neuter feral cats and continue to allow them to live outdoors are awful on any number of levels. Where I lived in central coastal CA, at least two species have been hunted to extinction by feral cats and house cats. My ex took care of all the feral ones that were living in a small ecological reserve.

Like the Gunnison Sage Grouse, the Lesser Praire Chicken has been declining in numbers for years and in both cases it seems unlikely that listing of either species will have much affect on OHV activity...and if listing did affect OHV use, I don't have a problem providing undisturbed habitat for an endangered/threatened species.

Snail darter: do some research here. The Tellico dam failed because it was a financial boondoggle (see Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner). It had nothing to do with the snail darter and seems to be one of the most mis-used examples people use to complain about the Endangered Species Act.

I am not a fan of groups that abuse the ESA and that goes from both sides. I've seen environmental groups that continue to suck $$ from the program long after status of the animal in question should have been downgraded (condor, peregrine falcons, etc.). Then there are other groups who drain $$ available for species that need help by trying to make areas off limits using some lame reason...wilderness study areas in the San Rafael Swell come to mind.

This stuff touches a nerve with me...can ya tell?!
At first I couldn't tell. But then you posted it twice within 30 minutes and then I started to figure it out.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:37 PM   #24
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At first I couldn't tell. But then you posted it twice within 30 minutes and then I started to figure it out.
Don't know how that happened...I don't remember hitting "post" twice. Nuked the 1st one.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:41 PM   #25
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Ecosystems are delicate and complex things. It is not always immediately
apparent how important various creatures are, and sometimes the importance
of a creature is not understood until it is too late. At such times cascading failure
of an ecosystem can occur and the result can be a real disaster. Just because
you may not agree with such concepts doesn't mean it is therefore of little or no
consequence to damage the habitat of the lesser prarie chicken.


Humans are by far the most profligate destroyer of the earth. Animals do not destroy
the earth, they live in coexistence and do not damage the earth unless their
populations grow to excessive numbers, at which time there is usually a die-off
due to over use of resources, and the balance returns to the system.


Someone has to stop the humans who would carelessly destroy the country where various wild
things live, and that is why we have governing bodies like the EPA and
the Department of the Interior. Those bodies ( like all government bodies and all
humans for that matter ) make mistakes from time to time, but on the whole the US
is a significantly healthier place since the EPA came into existence.


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Old 01-30-2013, 08:42 AM   #26
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:05 AM   #27
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Properly cooked, Sage Grouse and Prairie Chickens taste a lot like Spotted Owl!
Those folks worried about cholesterol might prefer poached greenback cutthroat trout.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:06 AM   #28
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With some fava beans and a nice chianti...
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:02 AM   #29
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