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Old 03-18-2013, 05:59 AM   #61
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:01 PM   #62
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Wait... did I miss something? Is that your bike that you're posting pics of?
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:24 PM   #63
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Wait... did I miss something? Is that your bike that you're posting pics of?
nope, but would not mind if it was

just assumed there are others out there that like looking at this kind of stuff

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Old 03-19-2013, 07:56 AM   #64
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another TAG rebuild

the opposite of the one above, USD forks, paralever rear, pea-shooter tank.

check out the footpeg relocation:

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Old 03-19-2013, 09:46 AM   #65
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Those lowered footpegs are a bit better executed than mine I don't know why I don't see that on more airhead dirtbikes. Moving my footpegs made the bike feel 50 pounds lighter.

Man I can't wait to get that shaved r65 block in there. That looks soooooo cool. BMW engines are downright fugly otherwise.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:55 AM   #66
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Those lowered footpegs are a bit better executed than mine I don't know why I don't see that on more airhead dirtbikes. Moving my footpegs made the bike feel 50 pounds lighter.
Looking at the foto it seems like the pegs will be at or lower than wheel axles post sag.

when standing, I have got to believe that changes the handling considerably for the better
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:25 PM   #67
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mine are a bit lower than stock and i don't want them any lower.
I get kicked of the foot pegs already if i hit a dip in a tire wide track/ rut? ?
I rather be a few cm above the lowest point of the engine, so of your engine hits the ground, stone, tree,.. your still on your pags.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:28 PM   #68
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mine are a bit lower than stock and i don't want them any lower.
I get kicked of the foot pegs already if i hit a dip in a tire wide track/ rut? ?
I rather be a few cm above the lowest point of the engine, so of your engine hits the ground, stone, tree,.. your still on your pags.
yes, but aren't you doing jumps on a stock length monolever rear?
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:39 PM   #69
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yes, but aren't you doing jumps on a stock length monolever rear?
yes.

But they're not building these bikes for a soft ride around the city right?
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:35 PM   #70
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yes, but aren't you doing jumps on a stock length monolever rear?
Love that picture



The pegs on that TAG bike are a lot lower than mine. At this point, those guys have probably built every type of airhead imaginable so I'm betting that's a well-tried setup.
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:59 AM   #71
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Laugh

Any chance of a pix of the opposite side of the blue TAG paralever bike?
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:15 AM   #72
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or the front? I'd like to see what they did to cap off the alternator
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:48 AM   #73
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So to achieve the 260mm of travel, do you have to extend the shock? Or do you get that effect since the lever is longer but the swingarm is designed to accept the stock shock?

Pardon my ignorance but my front end is coming along so I'm thinking about going up in the rear

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Howdy,

I am learning some Texan :)

Having played with tag arms for more than 10 years, will give you my 2 cents.

I like them but they are more delicate that the elongated steel swimgarm ala HPN. Steel vs alum fusion. That said...I never had any problem with them.

I know of people that cracked the swing arm but they didnt follow Tag's recommendation mods to the frame and they didn't respect the schock travel which is max 270. Ezio will tell you 260 mm because h wants to play safe:)

If i have to pick between the 2 and money is not issue go definitely with the TAG arm. Are you kidding me?
I know that TAG had some of them reinforced...buy adding some addl materials in certain areas -check out my bike and look very closely to my swingarm:

http://www.desertpistons.com/4strokesd/TAG/Tagindex.htm

I miss the lira...everything now is double with the Euro in Italy...

Tag bikes and set up have been tested and tested and tested and tested and tested and tested in racing competitions by enduro professional racers so you will not have a problem with what Ezio set you up with.

The last TAG bikes have an oilhead swingarm with the shock attachment done on the side as the monolever does. Since i have never heard of them having any issues, I have copied the set up and will test my last shortstroke enduro in few months. I will ill report on this. Having cracked BMW reinforced frames in the past, i know i will test it right...:)
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:02 AM   #74
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So to achieve the 260mm of travel, do you have to extend the shock? Or do you get that effect since the lever is longer but the swingarm is designed to accept the stock shock?

Pardon my ignorance but my front end is coming along so I'm thinking about going up in the rear
I was told 250-260mm of travel for my TAG mono, which is consistent with Desert Pistons comments.

Although I have not measured it, I understood the shock to be basically stock length on the TAG mono, and therefore travel comes from lever effect of extended swing arm.

From what I gathered HPN put the shock mounting point further back on their monos and therefore requires a longer shock.

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Old 04-23-2013, 12:49 PM   #75
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From what I gathered HPN put the shock mounting point further back on their monos and therefore require a longer shock.
That's correct. They cut off the stock shock mount and weld on their own more substantial one in basically the same spot. That "same" spot gets moved 100mm farther back when the swingarm gets extended, so it needs a longer shock. I can't recall the overall length off the top of my head.

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