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Old 02-21-2010, 03:24 PM   #1
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GSA fog lights to HID

well i just installed the vvme single beam 35 watt 4300k regular ballast hid kit for both my high and low beams and IMO, you can't go wrong with the price and results. so its got me thinking, these 55watt h11 fog lights are pretty pathetic and they need to be upgraded.
so here is what i'm thinking. doing the same kit but in 3000k and the slim ballast (will be easier to find a place for the slim ones over the regular ones). i just checked and vvme doesn't make the kit in 55watts and slim ballasts, which would have been my first choice.
anyone make a 55 watt slim ballast kit?
now as far as installation goes, i know that you need to make a hole in the rear of the fog light for the wires to go through but is there anything else that needs to be done?
when you plug the wires from the kit into the stock connector, are you then hiding that connector inside the housing or outside?
do you need to upgrade the 7.5 amp fuse for each of the lights?
does this all sound right for those of you who did this already? thanks. when i get the lights, i'll post up some pics.
has anyone gotten LAMPS on the display after installing or do you not get that warning when a fog light goes out?

edit: i just found that ddm makes a slim 55watt kit in h11 3000k and it seems like the ballasts are quite a bit smaller than vvme's. any comments on ddm's kits?
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:35 PM   #2
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For fog lights, cut off the connectors and crimp together. Replace 7.5 amp fuses with 10 amp.
My head lights are 50 watt 6000k, fog's 35 watt 6000k. If I was to do it again
I would do fog's in 50 watt. Do your fog's in same k as your head lights.
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Old 02-21-2010, 05:59 PM   #3
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does the connector plug right into the hid connector or do you have to cut and solder the wires?
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Old 02-21-2010, 06:21 PM   #4
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Cut the wires.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:40 AM   #5
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I did the fog's with 35W digital slim ballest's @5K. I had the HID supplier provide me with the matching stock plug connector. I did not change the 7.5 A stock fues, no problems. If I had a failure I can switch back to stock , plug & done.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:27 AM   #6
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I did the fog's with 35W digital slim ballest's @5K. I had the HID supplier provide me with the matching stock plug connector. I did not change the 7.5 A stock fues, no problems. If I had a failure I can switch back to stock , plug & done.
which hid kit did you use and do you have the connector inside or outside the fog light housing?

i'm not a fan of cutting the wires, i like the option of just unplugging and going back to stock.
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Old 02-22-2010, 08:07 AM   #7
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I picked up the DDM 35w slim with 6k lights, works great. The ballists are very thin. If you order from DDM make sure you specifiy h11 bulbs with 90 degree connectors. Swap the wires on the bulb side at the connectors, NO cutting. Plug into the back of the bulb and route wires as needed. Works great, no issues.
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Old 02-22-2010, 08:27 AM   #8
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For fog lights, cut off the connectors and crimp together. Replace 7.5 amp fuses with 10 amp.
My head lights are 50 watt 6000k, fog's 35 watt 6000k. If I was to do it again
I would do fog's in 50 watt. Do your fog's in same k as your head lights.
DDM website quote: "Our 55w HID Kit is not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area."

Would this apply to the BMW fog light housings ?
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:40 AM   #9
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Would this apply to the BMW fog light housings ?
I assume it would but would be interested in hearing long term results with those that did the 55 watt set up.
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:40 AM   #10
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which hid kit did you use and do you have the connector inside or outside the fog light housing?

i'm not a fan of cutting the wires, i like the option of just unplugging and going back to stock.
Xenon Rider , Although more expensive. Connectors outside the housing.
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:51 AM   #11
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DDM website quote: "Our 55w HID Kit is not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area."

Would this apply to the BMW fog light housings ?
i read that too and was wondering the same thing.
i'm either going to go with the vvme 35 watt slim kit or the ddm 35 watt slim kit. any one know the difference in the size of each ballast?
other than that, my only decision is 3000k or 4300k?
oh, is changing the fuse really needed?
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other than that, my only decision is 3000k or 4300k?
3000K if you want the yellow "fog light" appearance. I find it does help with making you more conspicuous.

4300K or 5000K if you want a whiter light.

Maybe not what you meant, but......
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Old 02-22-2010, 07:50 PM   #13
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My DDM setup

I just upgraded all four lights this past weekend.

High: H7, 55W, 6000K, DDMtuning.com, $33
Low: H7, 35W, 5000K, DDMtuning.com, $25
Fogs: H11, 2x35W, 5000K, DDMtuning.com, $50 (for both)
Shipping: $15
Total: $122

If I did it again I would do two things differently:
- do the high beam in 5000K color as well.
- get the 90 degree angled H11 fitting - it seems I drilled my fog cases unnecessarily.

All in all, I am SUPER happy.

I placed the 55W high beam ballast and left side 35W fog ballast behind the fairing on the left side. Tight but very doable. The 35W low beam ballast and 35W right side fog ballast are behind the fairing on the right side. Used plenty of tie wraps. The ignitors are next to the ballasts. They are a bit harder to place but again, very doable.
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i read that too and was wondering the same thing.

oh, is changing the fuse really needed?
No I stuck with the stock 7.5 A fuse . The slim digital ballasts require much less start up juice. Time will tell.
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Old 02-23-2010, 05:33 AM   #15
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i don't see how a 35 watt light will trip a 7.5 amp fuse. i dont know, maybe i'm missing something.
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