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Old 03-19-2015, 12:06 PM   #1
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80/20 tires that wear like 20/80 tires on pavement?

I'm probably going to be needing to change out my rear tire this year. Currently have a Kenda 760.

I ride my bike off-road primarily, however sometimes get the gumption to take it 37 miles to work, then take the trails home. After 2 trips, I could see visible wear on my Trakmasters from the pavement. Unacceptable. I ride 80% off road normally, but on the chance I do take it on road, I need my tires to last.

I've had good experiences with the d606 in the past wearing like iron on pavement, but was wondering how some of the other tires fare these days like the Motoz Tractionator or the Metzler Unicross.

Bike is a WR250R and sustained pavement at about 60-65 is average speed.

Is the 606 still a solid tire for amazing off-road performance in sand, dirt and mud, and good on-road wear, or has someone else taken the cake these days?
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Old 03-19-2015, 12:40 PM   #2
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Unfortunately you are the only person who has ever expressed interest in such a thing, and it's just not worth it to manufacture them for such a single-buyer market.
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:28 PM   #3
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Shinko 244's.

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Old 03-19-2015, 02:09 PM   #4
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Old 03-19-2015, 03:34 PM   #5
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Shinko 244's.

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Good choice. Or a Michelin AC10 for something more aggressive. Much better tire all around than a 606, IMO. I have a hard time wearing them out.
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Old 03-19-2015, 03:37 PM   #6
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606 are noisy! Friend has them on an 07 XRL650, however I think they hook up better is the loose stuff than my MT21s do on my XL600 (essentially the same bike). He doesnt want to ride any asphalt on them due to the wear and cornering issues. So I would give a win to the MT21 as far as street legal knobbies are concerned. Mine are a hair noisy but not annoyingly so.

TKC80 is an awesome tire. THE best IMO but... they wear quickly for the first 3k miles. Maybe get another 1k miles on them after that but they lose traction in the loose stuff.

Im into the Heidenau K60 Scout now. The big dualies run them (KTM 990, GS1200) and I have them on my KLR650. 7k miles on them and I have another rear waiting to be mounted. Going to see how many more rides I can get out of them. I did NOT get a front again this time. Going back to the TKC80 front.

Thems my tire opinions... since you asked
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Old 03-19-2015, 05:20 PM   #7
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How do these tires handle sugar sand? Michigan has sand, sand, and more sand. Then connecting pavement to sand. Then some sand. Seems you can get good sand traction, or good wear on pavement, but not both. I love the hookup of the 760, but should not notice visible wear after 100 miles of pavement on a good knobvy (in my opinion)
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Old 03-19-2015, 05:32 PM   #8
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How do these tires handle sugar sand? Michigan has sand, sand, and more sand. Then connecting pavement to sand. Then some sand. Seems you can get good sand traction, or good wear on pavement, but not both. I love the hookup of the 760, but should not notice visible wear after 100 miles of pavement on a good knobvy (in my opinion)
I've ridden hundreds of miles of U.P. sand on AC10s with no complaints. The rear is outstanding. The front is sized funny and I prefer the Pirelli MT16.
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Old 03-19-2015, 06:37 PM   #9
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How do these tires handle sugar sand? Michigan has sand, sand, and more sand. Then connecting pavement to sand. Then some sand. Seems you can get good sand traction, or good wear on pavement, but not both. I love the hookup of the 760, but should not notice visible wear after 100 miles of pavement on a good knobvy (in my opinion)

Clearly reality is not meeting opinion... likely never will.

I will tell you I ran Duro Median HF903/904s on my KLX 250 up in Michigan in the north end of the southern peninsula last June not really having any problems other than my ability to keep it on 2 wheels in the deep sand single track trails near Indian River. I get about 4000 miles out of a set on my 650 with a lot of road riding and they stick extremely well on corners too. They have a web tying knobs side to side giving a bit of a paddle effect. For a shade over $100 for the pair.

I've got over thirty thousand miles running them, can afford whatever I want, but the darn things work, so why change?
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Old 03-19-2015, 07:44 PM   #10
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Check out Pirelli XCMH.

I ran a set on my 640 almost 3,000 miles. Most every other tire I've tried are toasted at 1,000 miles.
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Old 03-19-2015, 11:43 PM   #11
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MT21 front Mich T63 rear. I ride a lot of sand and this combo is great - but more a 70-30 than an 80/20








what's the best oil for sand riding?
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:42 AM   #12
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what's the best oil for sand riding?
I have some Pam with Canola oil. It says 'no stick.'
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Old 03-20-2015, 04:34 AM   #13
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I'm probably going to be needing to change out my rear tire this year. Currently have a Kenda 760.
I'd like to know how you got a year out of a trakmaster...
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Old 03-20-2015, 05:36 AM   #14
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I'd like to know how you got a year out of a trakmaster...
"It's only a 250..."
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Old 03-20-2015, 06:15 AM   #15
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IMO the trakmaster rear is one of the best bang for buck dirt oriented tires out there... light years better then the d606's. Obviously you will get a lot more mileage out of the dunlop's, at a sacrifice for off road traction. Dual sport tires are all about compromise, there is no perfect "do everything tire".
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