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Old 04-16-2013, 05:10 AM   #16
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Are you using a 300 mm disc fergy? Wondering how the feel is with the smaller wheel. I would imagine it would take a pinch more lever effort than with a 21"er.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:08 AM   #17
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Albie, what size sprockets are you running front and back?
For a long time I ran 15/40, but now I run 16/40. Thinking I may go to 16/42.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:25 PM   #18
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Dose any1 know if the 690duke wheels fit the 690 enduro?
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:13 AM   #19
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no idea about the duke 690 wheels. I was thinking of going up more teeth on theback but i have got used to the 15 42 setup. She has enough top end to do me and still throws the front wheel in the air with a slip if the clutch in 4th.

Im using the disc of the enduro wheel (21") and so far there is plenty of stopping force. A twat changed lane last week infront of me and it got used as hard as i would like to use it without a problem.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:20 AM   #20
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Dose any1 know if the 690duke wheels fit the 690 enduro?
I've seen an smc with duke wheels, but not an enduro. The rotor mount up front is different, so you'd need to find a 300mm rotor that mounts to the duke wheels, or a caliper spacer for the enduro to space out to 320mm, but that appears to be a unicorn piece. Rear bolts up ok, but duke rotor is 240mm vs 220 on the enduro.
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Old 05-18-2013, 02:43 PM   #21
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Are you using a 300 mm disc fergy? Wondering how the feel is with the smaller wheel. I would imagine it would take a pinch more lever effort than with a 21"er.
Actually, the opposite is true. The smaller wheel offers the tire LESS leverage against the disk/caliper, so the brake feels stronger/lighter.

I'm about to give up on trying to find a 320mm caliper spacer, and go with the stock 300mm rotor and some Motard wheels.

I have two sets for SX/EXC, both have 320mm front disks. The back wheels won't fit. I'm tempted to spend big on the KTM Twins tubless option, but a little more Reserch into fitting the forged 2013 Duke wheels first.

Anyone got any further info? (from above, seems the Duke disk bolt pattern, and the fact the Duke disks are the wrong size is the first problem. I have seen older SMs/SMCs with older Duke wheels fitted. Not sure how much "engineering" was required.)

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Old 05-24-2013, 02:56 PM   #22
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Any tips on getting the rear wheel to clear the caliper. I'm getting hung up by it not even looking close to clearing. My tire is a 2ct 160/60/17. Any help is much appreciated
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:30 PM   #23
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Got a voice mail with some tips. Going to try again tomorrow as I'm sick and tired of messing with it today
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:04 PM   #24
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Remove two screws from the plastic chain guard on top of the swingarm and move it aside.

Then you can tilt the wheel to the left so it clears the caliper.
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:47 AM   #25
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Here's another question for you SMC'ers.. Stock gearing is 15:45 (says for 2013, not sure of other years?), what rear sprockets are you all running? Somebody responded they use a 40T, are you able to use the stock chain with that without a major adjustment? Thanks in advance.. I am looking to get a SM setup on mine soon, probably will do the KTMtwins setup, or possibly woody's wheel works.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:33 PM   #26
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40T is fine with the stock chain, just flip the chain adjusters. 15:40 is good for highways but 15:42 is probably the best compromise for mixed riding.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:34 PM   #27
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Will someone please list all the necessary parts for a smc conversion?
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Will someone please list all the necessary parts for a smc conversion?
One front 17" wheel, one rear 17" wheel. Those are the only NECESSARY parts.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:20 AM   #29
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Will someone please list all the necessary parts for a smc conversion?
"One front 17" wheel, one rear 17" wheel. Those are the only NECESSARY parts."

If you buy the right wheels, this is correct. I am doing research for SM wheels also for my '13 690E, and I plan on buying wheels that will require no spacers or have fitment issues (if possible ).

Be sure the front wheel has the 690E brake rotor setup or you'll have to get a spacer/bracket to move the caliper.
Be sure the rear wheel has a sprocket that you can use with the stock chain - previous posts here say 40T and 42T will work if you flip the axle block adjusters around, which is about as easy as it gets. The stock enduro sprockets are 15:45, so 42T will be taller gearing but you're running a smaller wheel diameter.

The speedo will be off due to the 17" front tire being smaller than the 21", but you can switch the wheel length speedo read (690E default is 2250) to 1850 (i think?) on the computer somewhere, or you have to mess with a wire.. There's a writeup somewhere on either supermotojunkies or an SMC thread here explaining it.

You'll also want the 690SMC kickstand, the 690E stand is wayyyy too tall for the 17" wheels.

This is everything I've learned while researching for my SM wheel setup, hope this helps. Also, anybody correct me if I've missed anything or stated anything incorrectly.

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Old 05-29-2013, 10:06 AM   #30
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"One front 17" wheel, one rear 17" wheel. Those are the only NECESSARY parts."

If you buy the right wheels, this is correct. I am doing research for SM wheels also for my '13 690E, and I plan on buying wheels that will require no spacers or have fitment issues (if possible ).

Be sure the front wheel has the 690E brake rotor setup or you'll have to get a spacer/bracket to move the caliper.
Be sure the rear wheel has a sprocket that you can use with the stock chain - previous posts here say 40T and 42T will work if you flip the axle block adjusters around, which is about as easy as it gets. The stock enduro sprockets are 15:45, so 42T will be taller gearing but you're running a smaller wheel diameter.

The speedo will be off due to the 17" front tire being smaller than the 21", but you can switch the wheel length speedo read (690E default is 2250) to 1850 (i think?) on the computer somewhere, or you have to mess with a wire.. There's a writeup somewhere on either supermotojunkies or an SMC thread here explaining it.

You'll also want the 690SMC kickstand, the 690E stand is wayyyy too tall for the 17" wheels.

This is everything I've learned while researching for my SM wheel setup, hope this helps. Also, anybody correct me if I've missed anything or stated anything incorrectly.
Obviously you have to weigh the price to convenience aspect. Myself I went with convenience so I bought complete wheelsets including a 2nd set of cush rubbers, so all I have to do is pull off the dirt wheels and bolt on the SM wheels, I do use the same spacers for both wheel sets. It takes me about 15 minutes form start to finish.

If you want to do it on the cheap then you'll have to swap things like the sprocket carrier and brake rotors between the wheel sets so all you really need is to buy the wheels, although you will probably want to get a 40 T rear sprocket as well.

I did use the E kickstand for a while but the bike sits almost straight up. I did eventually have a buddy cut it down and re-weld the foot back on for the cost of a beer. It leans a bit more with the dirt wheels on it now but it's no big deal.
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