ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Regional forums > The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-06-2013, 02:09 PM   #1
thump_co OP
..ouch
 
thump_co's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: 8532'
Oddometer: 1,993
New head of Interior Department - are we hosed?

So.. Salazar is out and the Sally Jewell, the current CEO of REI, is in. Anyone know her politics on motorized access?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...2e2_story.html

Given her background, will this enhance the current policy of shutting down recreation access due to "environmental concerns" while simultaneously letting gas & oil roll in the dozers and semis?
__________________
Ride

AMA | COHVCO | Stay The Trail | BRC | TPA | BCTR | NCTR
thump_co is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 02:22 PM   #2
Hair
Outside the boxer
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Northern New Mexico
Oddometer: 13,464
Here is a link to what REI thought of motorized way back in 1999.

http://www.wildwilderness.org/docs/reiquits.htm

But a corporate stand on an issue is not always representative of the CEO personal stance.

I am pretty sure that she doesn't own a moto. But maybe she comes to the job with an open mind and is willing to hear all sides of the access issue.

I do know that Obama got dinged at the end of his first term for not adding as much new land to the designated Wilderness lands as past Presidents have. Which seems odd that Presidents are even suppose add new land to Wilderness lands. Seems to me that if one keeps adding land to designated Wilderness Areas eventually we will run out of land.
__________________
My problem with Siri is that she is always on the phone.
Hair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 02:33 PM   #3
dmac1
Desert SW Luvr
 
dmac1's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Elizabeth, Colorado
Oddometer: 663
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hair View Post
Here is a link to what REI thought of motorized way back in 1999.

http://www.wildwilderness.org/docs/reiquits.htm

But a corporate stand on an issue is not always representative of the CEO personal stance.

I am pretty sure that she doesn't own a moto. But maybe she comes to the job with an open mind and is willing to hear all sides of the access issue.

I do know that Obama got dinged at the end of his first term for not adding as much new land to the designated Wilderness lands as past Presidents have. Which seems odd that Presidents are even suppose add new land to Wilderness lands. Seems to me that if one keeps adding land to designated Wilderness Areas eventually we will run out of land.
What we'll run out of is land on which to have any fun and that is the objective of the enviro-weenies.

I am pretty sure that REI was in favor of the Red Rock Wilderness Bill from a few years ago that would have made most of Utah off limits. I was grateful to see that they were NOT in support of the Greater Canyonlands Monument proposal. Bottom line I have no idea about her.

I did not like Salazar and couldn't stand seeing him in his hat.
__________________
RwR | BRC | COHVCO | USA-All | Gunny/C.B GOATS
2006 KTM 450 EXC
dmac1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 04:15 PM   #4
taosgsr
Gnarly Adventurer
 
taosgsr's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: 3 miles south of 37, La Plata, NM
Oddometer: 402
Yep we're all screwed.
__________________
See ya at the Pub!!
"don't I have a real dirtbike to do this on?????"
taosgsr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 04:39 PM   #5
VxZeroKnots
Beastly Adventurer
 
VxZeroKnots's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Location: Durango CO
Oddometer: 2,516
She sounds like the typical corporate and political stooge. Was a petroleum engineer and banker? I'm hoping for the best.
__________________
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure

No bike does everything perfectly. In fact, no bike does anything until someone gets on it to ride.

VxZeroKnots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 05:04 PM   #6
MeterPig
Meh
 
MeterPig's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Parker, Colorado...
Oddometer: 17,089
I wonder what she thinks of the lesser prairie chicken?
__________________
You looked down here...didn't you.
MeterPig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 05:18 PM   #7
thump_co OP
..ouch
 
thump_co's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: 8532'
Oddometer: 1,993
Quote:
Originally Posted by VxZeroKnots View Post
She sounds like the typical corporate and political stooge. Was a petroleum engineer and banker? I'm hoping for the best.
I'm still trying to figure how someone from big oil ended up running REI?
__________________
Ride

AMA | COHVCO | Stay The Trail | BRC | TPA | BCTR | NCTR
thump_co is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 05:40 PM   #8
dmac1
Desert SW Luvr
 
dmac1's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Elizabeth, Colorado
Oddometer: 663
Quote:
Originally Posted by thump_co View Post
I'm still trying to figure how someone from big oil ended up running REI?
Yeah...I just heard that. I guess Obama picked her at least partly because she did a one month hike in the arctic. At least thats what they said on the liberal news.

I found the following in the link below:

"....with a vow that she will balance the agency’s sometimes conflicting mandates to promote resource development and preserve the nation’s natural heritage."

"Ms. Jewell, a native of the Seattle area and a graduate of the University of Washington with a degree in mechanical engineering, has been a lifelong outdoors enthusiast. As a child she sailed in the Puget Sound and camped throughout the Pacific Northwest, according to a 2005 profile in The Seattle Times."

I'm guessing her outdoor adventures weren't of the moto variety, but I hope I'm wrong.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/us...dept.html?_r=0
__________________
RwR | BRC | COHVCO | USA-All | Gunny/C.B GOATS
2006 KTM 450 EXC
dmac1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2013, 06:11 AM   #9
Gitana
A work in progress
 
Gitana's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: Up high
Oddometer: 6,922
Thump, I thought the exact same thing when I saw she had been nominated. Wheee! There goes more riding accessible land. I need to get more active in COHVCO.
__________________
Anne
“Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes.” - William Gibson
"Don't be afraid to be open-minded. Your brain isn't going to fall out." - Unknown
2008 WR250R | 2008 DL650
Gitana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2013, 08:25 AM   #10
TheDudeAbides
Sarcasm free11/11/10
 
TheDudeAbides's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Location: Loveland, Colo
Oddometer: 7,857
Making the former CEO of REI the head of the Department of the Interior is like making the fromer CEO of Exxon the head of the department of energy.
__________________
Best dualsport mirrors I've ever owned

2001 BMW F650 GS Dakar (Stolen!)
2004 DRZE
2004 BMW 1150 GSA
TheDudeAbides is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2013, 08:25 AM   #11
AteamNM
Wonna Be ADVrider
 
AteamNM's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Sandia Mountains New Mexico
Oddometer: 3,451
It's hard not to own North Face, shop at REI, etc. I have Patagonia and North Face stuff. I have been a member of REI since 1984. I try to shop elsewhere but it is difficult. Don't they understand that both liberals and conservatives buy tents, clothes and stuff?



Yes we are so screwed.




A Jewell Who's Rough on Jobs

As CEO of retailer REI, the incoming secretary of the interior was on the radical extreme, using investor dollars to wage open green activism.

  • By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL





In naming Sally Jewell as Interior secretary, President Obama lauded the REI boss as a woman who "knows the link between conservation and good jobs." Tell that to Kevin Lunny.
Mr. Lunny runs an 80-year-old California oyster business that had the bad luck decades ago of being enclosed in a federal park. On Monday, as Ms. Jewell polished her acceptance speech, a federal judge ordered the business evicted. Among the organizations working hardest to destroy the livelihood of Mr. Lunny and his 30 workers was the National Parks Conservation Association. Ms. Jewell is vice-chairman of its board.
The press is just wild about Sally, feting the president's nominee as everything to everybody. She's never held office. She's the CEO of a successful outdoor retailer. She's a woman. She started as an oil company engineer. She is a "committed conservationist." What's not to love?




REUTERS Kevin Lunny, owner of Drakes Bay Oyster Company, hugs longtime worker Lupe Guadalupe Arriago after learning the government will not renew his family's lease in Inverness, Calif., Nov. 29, 2012.



Far from a creative choice, Ms. Jewell is just the newest addition to Mr. Obama's second-term team of loyal ideologues. It is in fact Ms. Jewell's (relatively unknown) history on the environmental fringe, and her liberal policy prescriptions, that surely made this an easy Obama call. The president knows he can rely on Ms. Jewell to do for the federal government exactly what she's done at an activist level: Lock up land, target industries, kill traditional jobs.
There are companies that strive to be environmentally responsible. And then there is a different category of firms altogether—those on the radical extreme, which use investor dollars to wage open green activism. REI is among these. Ms. Jewell, who joined the REI board in 1996 and rose to CEO in 2005, has been central to campaigns that have squelched thousands of jobs in the name of environmental purity.
REI, for instance, actively supported the Clinton-era Roadless Area Conservation Rule, which in 2001 locked up a third of all national forests, dealing another blow to logging and mining. When former Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire in 2006 announced she'd fight the Bush administration's effort to inject some flexibility into the rule, she held her press conference at REI's headquarters, flanked by Ms. Jewell. "We develop them, we log them, we mine them—we lose those assets forever," complained Ms. Jewell at the event. REI's well-heeled clientele ultimately got 58 million acres of "pristine" walking trails; Western loggers got to tell their kids they no longer had a job.
REI's bigger influence, however, has come from funneling money to radical groups via the Conservation Alliance, a foundation it created with Patagonia, The North Face and Kelty in 1989. Ms. Jewell was lauded by the group in 2010 for committing REI to giving more than $100,000 a year to this outfit.
The Conservation Alliance maintains a list of the "successes" it has notched via the dollars it sends to militant environmental groups like Earthjustice. In the past few years alone that list has included "77 oil and gas leases halted" in Utah, 55,000 acres put off limits to oil and gas jobs in Colorado, the destructions of functioning dams, and the removal of millions of new acres from any business pursuit.
The Alliance is particularly proud of its role in getting the Obama team in 2012 to lock up half of Alaska's National Petroleum Reserve—set aside 90 years ago specifically for oil and gas. Rex Rock, the president of the Arctic Slope Regional Corporation, which represents the economic interests of the Inupiat Eskimos, wrote that the decision will "cripple the lone economic driver for our communities," and make the Inupiat "exhibits in an outdoor museum."
The NPCA, when it isn't destroying oyster farmers, has filed lawsuits attacking power plants and waged campaigns to ban off-road vehicles and snowmobiles in park lands. Ms. Jewell, on the board since 2004, was there for many of these efforts to kill jobs and restrict park use to those whom the NPCA approves. These are the very parks Ms. Jewell will oversee as Interior secretary.
As for Ms. Jewell's own views, here's what she took away from her time at an oil company, as described in a 2007 Forbes interview: "I would say I just really have a good fundamental knowledge of what happens when you drill for oil. What happens when oil gets in a creek? How do you deal with that? What are the environmental challenges? What's the water quality in the community? These are all things that, when you see them on the ground, you recognize that there is a cost to consumption."
What might also have qualified Ms. Jewell for the nomination is her open support for an idea of great interest to this administration. "I know tax is a dirty word, but if we were paying a carbon tax that accounted for our impact on greenhouse gases, that would in fact change our consumption," explained Mrs. Jewell in 2009. She's certainly an Obama fan, donating $10,000 to his re-election. No word if she's sent an equivalent check to Mr. Lunny, or the Inupiat.
"She knows that there's no contradiction between being good stewards of the land and our economic progress," raved Mr. Obama in announcing her. Ms. Jewell's history is instead proof that she believes no such thing.
Write to kim@wsj.com
A version of this article appeared February 8, 2013, on page A11 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline: A Jewell Who's Rough on Jobs.
AteamNM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2013, 08:39 AM   #12
MeterPig
Meh
 
MeterPig's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Parker, Colorado...
Oddometer: 17,089
She is definitely a left win loon. Salazar is looking pretty good.


Fatfingering on tapatalk with my groovy iphone of doom.
__________________
You looked down here...didn't you.
MeterPig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2013, 09:16 AM   #13
mtech1950
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Location: Albuquerque NM
Oddometer: 411
j

just remember this shit in 2016
mtech1950 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2013, 09:54 AM   #14
SnowMule
[angry moth noises]
 
SnowMule's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Location: I LIVE IN A GIANT BUCKET
Oddometer: 18,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides View Post
Making the former CEO of REI the head of the Department of the Interior is like making the fromer CEO of Exxon the head of the department of energy.
My thoughts exactly. Just screams "Conflict of Interest" to me.

__________________
Spewer of the poignant non sequitur
SnowMule is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2013, 10:27 AM   #15
OTB
Oh fer Chrissakes
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Location: Rio de Las Animas Perdidas
Oddometer: 7,056
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides View Post
Making the former CEO of REI the head of the Department of the Interior is like making the fromer CEO of Exxon the head of the department of energy.
Sierra Club executive director Michael Brune called her a champion in the effort to connect children with nature and said she has "a demonstrated commitment to preserving the higher purposes public lands hold for all Americans – recreation, adventure, and enjoyment."
Tim Wigley, president of the Western Energy Alliance, which represents the oil and natural gas industry, said Jewell's experience as a petroleum engineer and business leader "will bring a unique perspective to an office that is key to our nation's energy portfolio."

Maybe she's both.
__________________
He not busy being born is busy dying
OTB is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 03:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014