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Old 02-06-2013, 11:04 PM   #1
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Stockton beach closure????

I posted a week ago about closure of tracks and hinted that the next thing we know is that mining would be there.

I thought they ( the government ) would have waited longer before they rubed our face in it.

Check this out.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/44...oposal-passed/

It reminds me of the story of mass trespass in the uk.

http://www.kindertrespass.com/

The masses were being locked out of trails by the people with money/ government, same here.

I am completely over it!

Many other people are too.

I'm not one to instigate unlawful behaviour, but at what point do they stop? Is this what is needed to make them realise that this behaviour is not acceptable?

( I normaly sign off with " cheers Gordo'' but I don't feel this is approriate this time )

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Old 02-06-2013, 11:16 PM   #2
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I just love the "coincidence" of a local mayor and his son owning a company that will make megabucks out of this. Where's ICAC when you need them?
And Fatty O'Barrel has de-funded the public defenders office, along with every other watchdog operation, so there's no appeal and no scrutiny.
Labor was corrupt to the core, but they did at least pretend to be honest. There's no pretence here. This mob are out and proud, NSW is open for business to the highest bidder. Wanna build a casino Mr Packer? Come on down, no tender, no scrutiny, and you can write the government press releases too.
I hope all the dumb fucks who voted this lot in are watching this, but I rather suspect they will be watching "my kitchen rules" instead. Morons.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:18 PM   #3
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Beyond pissed off.
Fucking fuckers.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:51 PM   #4
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Devide and concour

Devide and concour is the method.

When you start believing that you can't safely ride a bike without indicators or you have a suspension lift on your four wheel drive, camp in spots that are outside of the regimented areas , wear a non ADR approved helmet etc. you live in fear and loose your voice.

We loose our freedom in small increments and only when there is a mass uprising does the government back down. ( Franklin Dam example ).

Incrementalism is the enemy of inovation!

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Old 02-07-2013, 12:03 AM   #5
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It's the old frog slowly boiling in the pot analogy...
Where else can we enjoy sand dunes like that close to sydney? I can't think of any without a significant drive.

I'm pissed off too, i really enjoyed my trips to Stockton.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:48 AM   #6
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Might have to trespass then for a last ride ? As a protest of course.

This is complete bullshit, I feel sorry for the kids.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:54 AM   #7
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is this an old news story though...?????
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$1.5bn Stockton mining proposal passed
By BEN SMEE Sept. 28, 2009, 12:26 p.m.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:59 AM   #8
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is this an old news story though...?????
Ouch ! Nice spot, there are two dates one at the top of the page and one at the top of the article....stupid Internet.
Trespass anyway ?
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:05 AM   #9
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is this an old news story though...?????
I wondered how long before someone spotted the date 2009. Okay mods send this dribble to the dungeon.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:14 AM   #10
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Devide and concour is the method.
Incrementalism is the enemy of inovation!
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So, you AGREE (concur) with closing trails, tracks and beaches?
Shame on you, sir.
You may hand in your ADV sticker at the door and begone. We don't need your type here.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:25 AM   #11
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is this an old news story though...?????
Well spotted. I got sucked in, but then I'm a trusting soul at heart......
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:09 AM   #12
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Not really, news article 3 and half years old, all you fuckers with alziemers and dementure should have forgotten about. Government and mining may now be acting on. First notice track closures, then sale goes ahead, and people start to arc up, government and sand mining company can simply turn around and say well you had 3 and a half years notice.


Call me a conspiracy theorist, and I'll call you dumb cunt for not heading a warning and learning from historical events.

If it ain't mining I bet it's got something to do with N(azi)SW National Parks wanting to procure the land.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:12 AM   #13
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So, you AGREE (concur) with closing trails, tracks and beaches?
Shame on you, sir.
You may hand in your ADV sticker at the door and begone. We don't need your type here.
How would you read that from what I have written?

My point is that while there is no, one large group to stand and fight this there are many smaller ones. This was done on purpose in my opinion by the government. there are too many fractuls, just look at the way ( even the fact that there are individual govenrment for each state ) the states turn a blind eye when a problem is in another state. Come on Australia, lets move forward and realise that this is not helping matters, A good example ( and I live near the QLD border but in NSW ) is how much effort and money is taken from me when I buy or sell a car/motorbike/truck with QLD plates. It makes no sense at all, aside from lining pockets of people that shouldn't be there anyway.
Also my point is that in the Media's eye there would seem to be a bunch of groups that hate eachother, Campers, Four Wheel Drivers, Mountain Bikers, Horseriders, Trail Bike riders and Bush walkers, now I for one have only ever had nice conversations with all of them, I am respectful as I pass them and switch off completely for Horseriders. So we should all be one group, " Bush Lovers ", and I am sure that if there is any animosity towards eachother it is not as strong as the dislike that Bush Lovers have for the mining companies and political red tape that they hide behind.

So by appearing to try to fix things a little bit, they avoid a complete overhaul of the system.

So the Bush walkers are happy when trail bikes and four wheel drives are banned from an area but if they where given the whole story and asked " do you think we should close this bushland and start mining here " I bet you get a different answer.
And another point, if they count the number of bush walkers in an area and notice that it is reducing, sometimes it is because to get to a certain area they have closed the dirt roads to get near. So first they close the road access, so you can't get near to it by car, then they say to the bush walkers " well you weren't using it anyway ".

And If this is too compicated an answer, then just for the record, I am against closing tracks.

Cheers Gordo'

gordonmichaellee screwed with this post 02-07-2013 at 11:54 AM Reason: Try to make it less to do with poitics!!!
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:27 PM   #14
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Let me guess, someone posted an old "incorrect" media piece on facebook which led to this nonsense. Boy the air was thick around Mullumbimby last night.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:39 PM   #15
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So am I wrong

I can now see that the dates may have been inaccurate but am I wrong ( genuine question ) in the points that I make?

And what do you mean about the air around Mullumbimby ( another genuine question ).

Yes I did get the link to the newspaper from facebook, is it untrue?

I honestly don't want to get into an argument with anyone and I sure don't want to use untrue info to back up any arguments.

Cheers Gordo'


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